Do you think Dragon Ball vs Gold Saints debates will finally be free to happen?

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Lets have a fun discussion.

 

[Sheoth]

If we assume Goku (Or someone) is a threat or is able to destroy all 12 Universes, then they could match the God tiers in stats.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

well lets go with the gold saints for now.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

not before prime 1 million vs beerus

 

[The_Everlasting]

They are, at the moment at least, more or less around the level of the God Cloths.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@ELasting: Is that in terms of raw power or as a whole(i.e powers, strength, what abilities they have on them, etc.)?

 

[The_Everlasting]

Raw power and speed as it seems (Though I'm pretty sure God Cloth users have better hax IIRC).

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

but who wins in prime 1 million vs beerus?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Lasting: Oh okay cuz if we count what powers Goku has on him as he is now(yes, i'm also including his obsulete Kaioken) and compare to what Pegases Seiya has, then it's a loss for Goku even he did get bumped up to 3-A.

 

[FanofRPGs]

Goku is still to slow, he is only billions of times FTL

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Fanon: Don't forget AP or power as Goku right now is at least HIgh 3-B for the moment.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

and we only had 14 episodes. man this makes me happy. this is all i want. my dream will be fulfilled for DB.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

It's pretty how for several years, DB fans allows claimed about Galaxy to Universe busters(most prominitely towards Goku for example). And now it's prety much true with the presence of Beerus and Whis plus the DB Super show.

Damn. The legacy and power of Dragon Ball has come a long way.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

who thinks we will get massive speed feats. heck they may be higher. it is pretty much garanteed that goku will be at least 3-A. we really just need speed and some hax. now if we equalized speed then that's a different story.

 

[CHILLVIBEZZ]

They should beat all gold Saints easily excluding Shaka

 

[FanofRPGs]

I do not get how the Boo Saga characters are so low tier though, why isn't Gotenks large star level? Why is Boohan not light speed?

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I don't mind about the power let alone the speed increases, it's the hax part that i personally want to happen that needs to be added onto the DBverse.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

It's pretty how for several years, DB fans allows claimed about Galaxy to Universe busters(most prominitely towards Goku for example). And now it's prety much true with the presence of Beerus and Whis plus the DB Super show.
Damn. The legacy and power of Dragon Ball has come a long way.

from like town level to universe level. man. and we are only 14 episodes in.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I meant to say funny in there, Dragon. But yeah, that power increase is real.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I don't mind about the power let alone the speed increases, it's the hax part that i personally want to happen that needs to be addedc onto the DBverse.

DB is by far one of if not the strongest non-hax verse there is.

 

[FanofRPGs]

I don't mind about the power let alone the speed increases, it's the hax part that i personally want to happen that needs to be addedc onto the DBverse.

DB is by far one of if not the strongest non-hax verse there is.

I was wondering

What is the strongest non-hax verse in fiction? I was thinking maybe Marvel (Beyonder does not really have hax)

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

I don't mind about the power let alone the speed increases, it's the hax part that i personally want to happen that needs to be addedc onto the DBverse.

DB is by far one of if not the strongest non-hax verse there is.

That is true. DB may be one of the strongest anime verses out there (non-haxwise), but i think with hax and i'll definitely considered it a strong a** verse.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

watch in the frieza arc they gonna be attacking atoms and stealing senses.XD

 

[FanofRPGs]

I don't mind about the power let alone the speed increases, it's the hax part that i personally want to happen that needs to be addedc onto the DBverse.

DB is by far one of if not the strongest non-hax verse there is.

That is true. DB may be one of the strongest anime verses out there (non-haxwise), but i think with hax and i'll definitely considered it a strong a** verse.

I just do not seeing it happening though, Akira Toriyama being simple is a blessing and curse. It makes the quality of the show itself good, but in turn he does not think of omnilock, form negation, genjutsu, etc. He probably thinks power is determined by AP, not even speed. Just AP.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

hey DB got this far without hax. We don't really need any if they get even stronger.

 

[CrossverseCrisis]

@Fanon: I see. Then again, it kind of makes sense of why DB is still like that even now.

 

[FanofRPGs]

hey DB got this far without hax. We don't really need any if they get even stronger.

Hax and speed are really important for DBZ right now, DBZ characters were always stronger than they are fast. SSJ3 Goku could probably tackle Post Crisis Superman if it was not for the astronomical speed difference. If Goku got something in the quadrillions to the quintillions of times FTL speed range, then they would be very good.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

well if Super keeps doing what they're doing we will get a 2-C character soon.

sadly their max is only 2-C as far as we know unless they give us more than 12 universes.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

well, there are potentially the parallel timelines that they can use

 

[FanofRPGs]

well if Super keeps doing what they're doing we will get a 2-C character soon.
sadly their max is only 2-C as far as we know unless they give us more than 12 universes.

Well like I said I doubt they even have the concept of higher dimensional multiverses.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

hey DB got this far without hax. We don't really need any if they get even stronger.

Hax and speed are really important for DBZ right now, DBZ characters were always stronger than they are fast. SSJ3 Goku could probably tackle Post Crisis Superman if it was not for the astronomical speed difference. If Goku got something in the quadrillions to the quintillions of times FTL speed range, then they would be very good.

it'll happen. super seems to be the king of extreme feats. i mean we went from 4-B to 3-A in only 14 episodes.

 

[FanofRPGs]

well, there are potentially the parallel timelines that they can use

I forgot, about how many parallel timelines were in Xenoverse?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

well, there are potentially the parallel timelines that they can use

true. if xenoverse becomes canon somehow then i see that happening.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

well, there are potentially the parallel timelines that they can use

I forgot, about how many parallel timelines were in Xenoverse?

there are more than 50 parallel quests in Xenoverse plus story mode. so a lot.

 

[The_Living_Tribunal1]

idk about xenoverse, but in super they might just say "screw it, lez make infinite timelines" or something lol

im not saying this will happen, im saying that this might happen

 

[FanofRPGs]

idk about xenoverse, but in super they might just say "screw it, lez make infinite timelines" or something lol
im not saying this will happen, im saying that this might happen

Wouldn't each timeline count as its one space-time continuum?

 

[FanofRPGs]

Excluding Xenoverse here is all of the timelines in Universe 7

-Unseen timeline (canon)


-Main timeline (canon)


-HoT timeline (canon)


-Room of Spirit and Time (canon)


-Unseen timeline (GT) -Main timeline (GT)


-HoT timeline (GT)


-Room of Spirit and Time (GT)


-Sugoroku Space

 

[PKThunderOkey]

Prime stomps Beerus

 

[FanofRPGs]

Prime stomps Beerus

?

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

Prime stomps Beerus

prime is 3-B while Beerus is 3-A