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isnt it a fake scan or something? I heard it lol
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Divine Dimensionnal Dance: Shinza Bansho Gods downgrade
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I remember seeing it in the past and being said to be one too yeah.
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This is fake as hell lol.
It would be better to provide the original japanese text for said claim
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Taikyoku--Origin of all things in Onmyoudou (Way of Yin and Yang), concept pointing to the nucleus of the universe.
This is referred to Yin-Yang or Duality, as Taikyoku is source of everything.
This is referred to Yin-Yang or Duality, as Taikyoku is source of everything.
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Broken link.
Although I already said that I am aware of Taiji being the origin of stuff and all. We acknowledge it already. This won't help much here.
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And yes thats why Taiji is above dimensions and etc. My bad for not elaborating properly
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Oh my bad
Its the same link of the previous scan i stated Taiji is above dimensions and etc.
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I already explained how it isn't. We don't consider creation feat as a proof of "regular" transcendance, and we're sure not taking it as a proof of 1-A transcendance.
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Thanks.
Although thing is... I'm already aware of these scans. I keep saying it and acknowledging them. It just doesn't go against the downgrade at any moment.
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anyways thats all i gotta say. I might read some of the new statements after this
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Thank you to everybody who have been helping to delete all of the nonsense spam here. The content revisions forum should be kept serious and to the point with analytical constructive responses. This is not the fun and games forum.
Anyway:
@SleepyTBubble @TISSG7Redgrave @Warren_Valion @Qliphoth_Bacikal
What do you think about this?
@Ultima_Reality
Your evaluation help would also be appreciated here.
Anyway:
@SleepyTBubble @TISSG7Redgrave @Warren_Valion @Qliphoth_Bacikal
What do you think about this?
@Ultima_Reality
Your evaluation help would also be appreciated here.
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Sleepy already gave his opinion
Same for Redgrave
Qliphoth said he wouldn't join the thread (although he still helps for the translation and others thing)
For Ultima I asked him an initial opinion in PM, but it's likely better if he gives another here yeah.
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Anyway i now understand where you stand, i will write up my arguments later in a few hours currently at work, will be a while
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I guess raven is no longer interested in shinza threads
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Raven?
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Ravenous4th, he is very knowledgeable on the verse
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Oh right.
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the dude who made shinza High 1-A
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I didn't make the connection between the surname "raven" and their username yeah.
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Hyperdimentional is any dimensional plain from 4D upwards.
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I havent saw his stuff about H1A shinza either. I just heard it from a friend of mine.
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The first part of the OP is litteraly about the arguments used for 1-A in said thread btw.
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Anyways if he is still up to Shinza scaling he might be able to elaborate with you on this one
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They didn't connect since May 2020 from what I can see, so I highly doubt that they'll come anytime soon.
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I still remembered how Demonbane was still one of the most powerful and people just stopped talking about it immediately when the downgrade took affect.
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Hey, that's not true!
First, 80 stomp match mostly made of Goku vs EGD were made
Then everyone stopped talking about it
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"Beyond-Dimensional"
If you check the meaning, while Chō-Jigen words are litteraly "Transcend/Super/Ultra/Hyper" and "Dimensions", it merely means Transdimensional. In fact, I think I never saw Chō Jigen (超次元) be used for anything remotely similar to 1-A.https://www.wordsense.eu/超次元/
Which just means something higher than 3-D (which is why Solaris from Sonic isn't 1-A, or part of why Tenchi Muyo was downgraded).
https://www.wordsense.eu/transdimensional
Of course, if just refuting what was said in this post was enough, it wouldn't have passed. So let's go to the actual important part of this post. You can also consider this one as optionnal (or as a mere extention of the introduction) if it helps, since it's not really the main focus.
^This here is objectively wrong and is the very issue using dictionaries across different languages to try and define something. I can't believe Solaris was literally used as an argument against it. Solaris was called super-dimensional but he also was not described as the source of dimensional phenomena or conceptualization. This is the same nonsense that downgraded Tenchi Muyo, apparently. Demonbane was also erroneously downgraded. Hmm.
That's the only part of the OP I'll address. I wish I could to into more detail regarding the other more relevant parts of the OP, showing scans, give proper scans (since no one has done so it seems)...I really do, but I'm not even close to being in the mood to argue in a thread (especially about 1-A) when there's a potentially critical level family crisis I'm dealing with at the moment (which is directly tied to VSBW and its members, in fact...)
So needless to say, I'm not very happy with this thread, the community, or the site as a whole, if I may be completely honest.
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Calling them erroneous downgrade or others work "nonsense" without any argument is as wrong as it can be.
Also it's used only for one argument because the very thread that upgraded it used the word alone as its own supporting proof (and even being the "most impressive cosmology size") . Cho Jigen is a term we put way higher than its actual meaning in the past based on a mere "it says beyond"; and that's without mentionning the fact that we attribuated it in an arbitrary manner without much reason to it.
I'm sorry to hear that tho. Hope things will get better for you.
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Probably because the reason people even gave a damn about the verse was cuz how w@nked the characters were.
Sadly this is the same to some extent with Shinza
Barely anyone reads the damn thing
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Demonbane 3A?
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Since the most thing the opposite side is doing right now is whining and complaining how they don't like everything on this site.
I am gonna change my stance to agreeing with the downgrade
There is like 2 people arguing against this CRT with the rest of the opposite side just saying they don't care/have no time
I think we should start counting the mods voices at this point if we want to get anywhere tho
I am gonna change my stance to agreeing with the downgrade
There is like 2 people arguing against this CRT with the rest of the opposite side just saying they don't care/have no time
I think we should start counting the mods voices at this point if we want to get anywhere tho
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Shiza going to die like demonbane. The shinza fanbase is already small AF now it will be demonbane level of small. Also talking about demonbane, it's a fantastic visual novel and I enjoyed it except certain wierd sex shit that happens which I skipped. So I'm actually happy the crazy hate behind demonbane stopped. I've only read dies irae and some paradise lost but I don't want shinza bansho to die like demonbane because well it's history is rich and characters are top tiers.
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Also I just want to speak to everyone here: seriously, what the hell?
So far here's some problems that happened in this thread and shouldn't even be:
-Accusing others of using fake account (although one case did seem odd based on another thread)
-Lots of needless swearing or rudeness
-A shit tons of derailment (although some are funny stuff and I can't resist those)
-Questionning of the system itself, which should be its own thing and doesn't have anything to do with the thread
-(False) Accusation of lying on the translation by adding words
-Accusation of hiding context or lying (despite one being explained and the other happening later on and being explainable)
- People using fake scans
-Accusation of using machine translation despite clearly saying who translated
-All of this being baseless stuff most of the time
And that's just taking "some" of them. In a bit more than one day
Is it that hard to be civil? Like, things are simple, we either agree or disagree with each others. When we disagree, we explain why with constructed arguments and try to prove our respective points by using scans (and preferably not 1 line long stuff). Without calling names or anything.
It's just a fictionnal verse. A fiction. Some story made by a guy who want to entertain people. It's not like one of us will die depending on the result. Even if the verse is tier 1 and called Shinza, it isn't any different from this tier 11 verse called Flatland. So we shouldn't act any different.
And although I said that I was speaking to everyone, I also thanks those who keep being civil and reasonnable (although it should be something normal, so thanks for being normal I guess).
Can't we just chill while staying on topic?
So far here's some problems that happened in this thread and shouldn't even be:
-Accusing others of using fake account (although one case did seem odd based on another thread)
-Lots of needless swearing or rudeness
-A shit tons of derailment (although some are funny stuff and I can't resist those)
-Questionning of the system itself, which should be its own thing and doesn't have anything to do with the thread
-(False) Accusation of lying on the translation by adding words
-Accusation of hiding context or lying (despite one being explained and the other happening later on and being explainable)
- People using fake scans
-Accusation of using machine translation despite clearly saying who translated
-All of this being baseless stuff most of the time
And that's just taking "some" of them. In a bit more than one day
Is it that hard to be civil? Like, things are simple, we either agree or disagree with each others. When we disagree, we explain why with constructed arguments and try to prove our respective points by using scans (and preferably not 1 line long stuff). Without calling names or anything.
It's just a fictionnal verse. A fiction. Some story made by a guy who want to entertain people. It's not like one of us will die depending on the result. Even if the verse is tier 1 and called Shinza, it isn't any different from this tier 11 verse called Flatland. So we shouldn't act any different.
And although I said that I was speaking to everyone, I also thanks those who keep being civil and reasonnable (although it should be something normal, so thanks for being normal I guess).
Can't we just chill while staying on topic?
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if ppl will stop to like a verse just because they got downgrade is a proof that they don't like the verse, they just want powerfull shit, this is sad
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Well I don't wast to derail but I'll explain it. Shinza became a lot famous because of how powerful it was so it attracted new viewers, now that's it's not the case people will genuinely not care about the series to check it out
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