Discord vs Rumplestiltskin

[The_Archdemon]

The Fight

OUAT has been recently upgraded (thank God), and I've been searching for a fitting opponent to fight the Dark One. So, I guess Discord should do pretty well. Please don't kill me.

• 4-B versions for both.
• Speed is equalized.
• Otherwise, Standard Battle Assumptions

Votes
Discord: 0

The Dark One: 3 (Stalker, Ryuga21, KingOFG)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Doesn't Rumple think, what does it do??

 

[The_Archdemon]

I'm sorry, but I didn't get you.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Basically, what does Rumple start with how fast does he activate it, is it gesture based, thought based, or speech based???

 

[The_Archdemon]

Well, first move would be trying to seal Discord away in a pocket reality and null his powers.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Nulling won't work as he resists it

Sealing, yes.

But is his sealing thought based??

 

[The_Archdemon]

Sealing is thought based, and WR Rumple's nulling is plot manip-based, being able to affect himself (yes, there are two Rumplestiltskins, don't think about it too much), who resisted Hades' nulling.

Not sure whether or not it's enough, though.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

We know discord starts with powernull.

It's just inconsistent in how fast he does it in character. It's either snap based or thought based

If Discord's powernull is snap based, rumple wins

If Discord's powernull is thought based, it's incon.

So I can't make a vote yet

 

[The_Archdemon]

Right...

 

[Ryuga21]

Following

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Discord usually snaps in character, with some exceptions being made. I'm currently binging MLP and I don't recall much scenes where he doesn't snap, there are some scenes where he's offscreen and does the ability.

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Buddy, don't even start.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

>MLP
eww

No need for that here, not the time to just go insult MLP (Even though I agree that MLP isn't good)

 

[EMagoIorSouI]

Good behavior. If you don't like a verse, simply just don't express it.

If you're someone who still ridicules MLP for being "girly and for kids", then you're not cool, you're only putting yourself on spot. People should actually give reasons why the show is bad.

Anyways, let's not derail. From what I can remember, Discord usually snaps while in character, especially towards his opponents.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Discord usually snaps in character, with some exceptions being made. I'm currently binging MLP and I don't recall much scenes where he doesn't snap, there are some scenes where he's offscreen and does the ability.

Not some, but many exceptions. I personally think he thought more than he snapped in his first appearance.

 

[The_Archdemon]

In that case, I guess Rumple activates faster. In any case, he also resists power nulling (from Hades), though I don't know the extent of Discord's power.

 

[Stalker_Maggot]

If Rumble resists Powernull, then I'll vote for him since he should just be able to seal Discord

 

[The_Archdemon]

Counted then

 

[Ryuga21]

Rumple FRA

 

[Lightbuster30]

In that case, I guess Rumple activates faster. In any case, he also resists power nulling (from Hades), though I don't know the extent of Discord's power.

Virtually every time he summons an item, transforms himself, or does anything, he just thinks it into existence. The amount of times he snaps is actually fairly low compared to when he RWs via thinking. Snapping is just more iconic since you can actually see it happen, so it creates the illusion that he snaps more when he doesn't.

 

[Lightbuster30]

And really? Sealing in a pocket dimension? Against a guy superior to people with multiversal+ range? He literally walks out and puts Rumple in it instead.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Multiversal+ range??????? Pretty sure MLP is only a 2-C universe.

Also, dimensional travel and 2-C range has never been a counter to sealing. Think youre talking about BFR that is a counter to that.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Legends of Magic has infinite Universes and a spell that can access them. Luna can cast it as a teenager.

It is when the sealing amounts to "put this dude in a pocket dimension". Unless the sealing nulls his powers; which Discord resists, he's walking right out.

 

[The_Archdemon]

It is when the sealing amounts to "put this dude in a pocket dimension". Unless the sealing nulls his powers; which Discord resists, he's walking right out.

WR Rumple's nulling affects the powers of a guy who is absurdly resistant to power nulling (vulgo actual Rumple)

 

[Lightbuster30]

Define "absurdly resistant". You're being way too vague.

 

[The_Archdemon]

I actually already pointed out he resisted Hades (OUAT) nulling (which is law-manip based by the way). I also pointed out Rumple's nulling is plot-manip based.

Also also, Discord's range is just 2-C.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Based on what is it plot-based?

Doesn't matter. Range revisions were accepted. I'm just too busy with school to revise the range for mostly a whole verse + a bunch of additional powers for most of the verse.

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

I don't think Discord being stronger or more powerful in AP or hax means he has the same range

 

[Lightbuster30]

Performing a portal spell to alternate universes does.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Also, occam's razor. Why would a portal spell performed by reality warping chaos magic be weaker than something cooked up by Starswirl? Also, it's presumably the only known spell that travels to alternate universes. And yes, Discord can perform actual spells and not just reality warping. More than a few things he's done were described as spells instead of reality bending.

 

[The_Archdemon]

Based on what is it plot-based?

He's unleashing the power of The Author's Quill, which is entirely based on plot manipulation. And no, he does not need to write, because he's not using the quill, he's draining its power.

 

[Lightbuster30]

And this version has the authors quill?

 

[I'm_Blue_daba_dee_daba_die]

Yes

 

[The_Archdemon]

That's how he got to be 4-B, by harnessing its power. Pardon me, but did you have a look at the profile?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Rumples 4-B attack potency does not mention a quill. I know he has a tab with "the authors powers" but thats about it. The quill on the other hand does mention Rumple using it.

Wait, does he have the crystal or the quill? Because I'm seeing an extra 4-B on his tab coming from an Olympian crystal. And you only said: "4-B versions for both".

 

[The_Archdemon]

You're seeing a 4-C tab coming from the crystal.

 

[Lightbuster30]

But the crystal is also described as 4-B on it's profile.

 

[The_Archdemon]

When at full power, it's 4-B. When broken, it's 4-C.

 

[The_Archdemon]

It's also on its profile.

 

[Lightbuster30]

So, despite draining power from the quill, what if someone were to take it away? Does he actually need it on his person to drain it?