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Dimentio CRT: Let the greatest magic show begin!

"he was specifically going to survive it"

Was he

or is this just an assumption based on the fact that yeah obviously he wouldn't kill himself after that. Because I'm really not a huge fan of assuming that he'd be able to just resist the EE from all of this nonsense just because of this assumption. Also no, durability does not give resistance to EE.

Also I'm really not sure if the idea that the Void keeps passively erasing everything post-destruction holds any ground? Like the video just shows everyone able to exist normally in it.
 
Well here's the thing. Here, Bleck says that Dimentio can still control the Chaos Heart and is enough for the Void to finish off all worlds. If this were the case, then the Chaos Heart would have to survive the destruction of the Void. And you know, this was the source of Super Dimentio's power.

That wouldn't make sense if the Void cannot stop its destruction if something new goes inside at all. If the Void already destroys everything once something gets consumed, there'd be no reason to say why it can suddenly just stop destroying everything. Only Mario, Bowser, and Peach were able to survive it normally. With Luigi then coming along. Everyone else was killed.
 
Unless there is more context, I don't see how this involves the Chaos Heart surviving in the long run. This is clearly a suicide attack. Even if that was the case, Super Dimentio has no reasons to scale to that aspect. Being empowered by something means absolutely nothing on its own.

Maybe because that's just not how it work? The void when active clearly looks different from the white void we see the characters get in. And again, you get a bunch of random characters and things just existing there. Are you telling me absolutely none of the characters showing up in that white void are able to be threatened by the void in any way?
 
Maybe Dino Ranger Black might come back too look at it. And actually, Count Bleck did say he was going to recreate the multiverse, but that was later revealed to be just a bluff as he wanted to erase himself alongside the multiverse. Dimentio on the other hand actually did want to recreate the multiverse in his own image.
 
"but that was later revealed to be just a bluff as he wanted to erase himself alongside the multiverse."

If that's true then that's a big oof on the possibility of the Chaos Heart giving resistance.

Also regardless, Dimentio's last ditch effort to nuke the multiverse isn't the same as what he was actually planning to do.
 
I still don't agree with the notion that Dimentio is massively above a Base Mario. Either both get the same rating or Low 2-C Dimentio shouldn't exist.

There's really no basis or proof in canon to show Dimentio was stronger and all the more proof he was weaker, considering he canonically got beat by Luigi and acknowledged he has astounding power which was why he made him the host for the Chaos Heart to further the Dark Prognosticus. I mean, hell, being the ideal host for the Chaos Heart means Dimentio and Bleck weren't and likely couldn't draw out it's maximum power. That headcanon has more going for it than vague text from a guy in a coffee shop.

But whatever. Clearly I'm totally completely wrong and this wiki is always right.
 
The Chaos Heart still forms a magic barrier around the one use it that makes them invulnerable to everything excluding the Pure Hearts. I don't mind EE resistance getting nuked, but Dino actually agreed with it reluctantly due to a few other verses having EE resistance based on the same context. But Durability being 2-B via Chaos Heart still seems to be something he agrees with.
 
I'm just saying

Either Dimentio loses Resistance to EE

Or he keeps it yet loses direct application of 2-B

I can't really see both happening

Also y'all still need to actually add reasoning. The state of the profile is unacceptable. It doesn't tell us anything at all about his abilities.
 
Yeah, still a hard disagree.

This is because Dimentio had this planned out as evidenced shown before his death. Keep this in mind, Dimentio was going to recreate the world AFTER the Void has completely destroyed everything. He would have to survive this in order for him to even do such a thing.

Are...you seriously using the visuals as an argument as to why the Void just suddenly stops erasing? This is the inside of the Void, not the outside the visuals literally mean nothing. That all it is, just the inside. I don't even know why this is an argument. "A bunch of random characters" yes, because the four main heroes and the true villian count as random characters. Considering how an incomplete Void knocked out the main cast, this would be an issue for them.

Not even sure why this makes him lose 2-B. He has the power to destroy and recreate all words. That's already blantant. And he can survive hits from users of the Pure Hearts who scale. This doesn't make him lose anything.
 
Saikou seems to have a good point. Is somebody willing to ask some more administrators and discussion moderators to comment here?
 
I'm strongly against the 2-B physical stats being removed for reasons mentioned above, but neutral on resistance to EE getting removed. Although, the Mario cast did survive the EE attacks from Dimentio and were simply sent to the Afterlife.
 
You're claiming that Dimentio has enough control over the void to

-Expand it to the entire multiverse

-Remove it from the entire multiverse

-Replace it with his own worlds

Yet that he can't simply avoid erasing himself? Despite the fact that someone with similar power explicitly wanted to erase himself (as opposed to Dimentio's plan of not doing so)?

Also yes I'm gonna use visuals, when you're assuming that a white space which presents no threat to anyone is being argued to be the same as a void capable of destroying universes that is also the main threat of the game.

Also you say it yourself. "Incomplete void knocked out the main cast", yet this white space has no effect on them whatsoever. How can you genuinely say that it's the exact same void in those circumstances?
 
What do you think that we should do Dino Ranger Black?
 
@Ant I don't have much to say but if the ability does conflict with the stats, then it's probably best to remove it. I do agree that explanation must be made for some of Dimentio's abilities but the latter seemed to be taken care of.
 
So, I suppose removal of EE resistance from Dimentio and Bleck's profiles are fine?
 
Dimentio has most of Luigis abilities including resistance to EE via super dimentio plus dimentio doesn't even have it in his profile to begin with
 
Oh yeah, forgot about that. It should be explained that it comes from Luigi who tanked Dimentio's EE rather than him withstanding the destruction of the multiverse however.
 
Okay. So what, if anything, do we need to do here?
 
I removed Dimentio's resistance to void manipulation on his profile, since that'd come under having all of Luigi's powers anyway. Everything related to the OP has been sorted I believe, there's a couple other things that have been brought up in the thread though.
 
Yeah. To be fair, Dimentio's only real offensive ability in that key is his mind control, anything else can be explained by Bleck's higher AP.
 
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