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Dark Star Thresh vs Ultra Instinct Goku.
>Speed Equalized.
>Starting Distance: 3000 Light-Years.
>Moral On.
>Speed Equalized.
>Starting Distance: 3000 Light-Years.
>Moral On.
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Devourer vs Eevolutioner
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Goku vs a passively intangible, space-time manipulating, black hole spamming, soul sucking universe devourer
hmm...
hmm...
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To be fair Goku can hit intangibles and universe devourer isn't much here.
The rest, probably a problem. (Would a black hole be though?).
The rest, probably a problem. (Would a black hole be though?).
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Is this a Stomp?
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I only came to this thread because I saw Devourer and instantly though Lavos...
I'm disappointed ovo.
I'm disappointed ovo.
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Yes, since Goku can't harm intangible beings.SchroKatze said:
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He actually can, or at least intangible attacks.
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My point still stands. He can't harm intangible beings.TheJ-ManRequiem said:
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So Thresh's intangible sickle wont do much, and his time manip probably wont do much either, but he cant really do much against spatial manipulation, soul attacks, passive intangibility, and spammable Low 2-C black holes
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if Goku can hit an intangible attack with Ki , he can hit an intangible being , that's just logical
Attacking his souls won't do much since he resisted having his souls erased by the energie of a being stronger than him and Ki in general is both physical and spiritual , so he will just defend himself from them as he would from normal attack
spamming blackhole won't do much , i don't see how they are different from any other low 2-C attack and Goku would just get better and better at dodging them or outright blasting them away and even if we say he wouldn't , he can just IT to Thresh and dominate him in close combat (Goku can infuse his punch with ki or just cover his body in a ki barrier , like he does against Bergamo)
Thresh could probably use his spatial manipulation to get out of close combat but it would only be until Goku just IT again
Attacking his souls won't do much since he resisted having his souls erased by the energie of a being stronger than him and Ki in general is both physical and spiritual , so he will just defend himself from them as he would from normal attack
spamming blackhole won't do much , i don't see how they are different from any other low 2-C attack and Goku would just get better and better at dodging them or outright blasting them away and even if we say he wouldn't , he can just IT to Thresh and dominate him in close combat (Goku can infuse his punch with ki or just cover his body in a ki barrier , like he does against Bergamo)
Thresh could probably use his spatial manipulation to get out of close combat but it would only be until Goku just IT again
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"Dominate Tresh phisically"
He is larger than galaxies and carries black holes with enough mass to destroy a universe with gravity. Goku is going to be stomped by Tresh's foot.
He is larger than galaxies and carries black holes with enough mass to destroy a universe with gravity. Goku is going to be stomped by Tresh's foot.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Goku is just as strong as Tresh , that make Tresh's size a disadvantage rather than an advantage , try to fight a mosquito with the strenght and durability of a human , the human will have a hard time winning if he can at allSchroKatze said:
and Goku can punch the air and make a shockwave capable of destroying a univers , your point ? he also survived a black hole created by the ki pressure of a spirit bomb made with the energie of AT LEAST 2 univers buster , he even absorbed said energie
more like Goku would straight up punch through Tresh's foot , since they have the same strenght but Goku's strenght is way more localised , that's pretty much the different between a needle and a hammer , except that here , the needle is just as resistant as the hammer
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You...dont know the difference between a black hole and a punch...? And no, it is physically impossible to "blast them away", you cant physically destroy a black hole.Dragomer said:
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And no, resisting an intangible attack doesnt mean you can damage an intangible being.
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No it doesntDragomer said:
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if the blackhole and the punch have the exact same level of power ? no , there isn't much difference , except that the blackhole can serve as a way to control the fighting groundWeeklyBattles said:
and ? it's physicaly impossible to punch a dimension , Jiren did it , just like Goku destroyed Hit's dimension with aura and shook infinit nothingness , Ki isn't just physical , it can even erased souls and be used in mental fight , as shown in the different instance of image training with saw
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There is a MASSIVE difference between a black hole and a punch
Okay, now youre just using non-related feats to say Goku can do things he's never shown to be able to do
Okay, now youre just using non-related feats to say Goku can do things he's never shown to be able to do
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No, unless he shows he can hit an intangible being we cannot just assume he caDragomer said:
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in the context of the serie , it's pretty clear it does , Ki give pretty general resistance , it's never shown to give specifique resistance , that feat was there to show that Goku resisted existence and souls related stuff in general , not to specificaly show he would resist erasure but stay vulnerable to everything elseWeeklyBattles said:
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Unless Goku has shown to be able to resist these things, you cannot just assume he can
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Thresh for the reasons above, he just seems to be more haxed overall.
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that's litteraly like saying that we can't say that Goku could tank a kick just because he tanked a punch , Ki always give general resistance , i'v never seen an instance where ki gave resistance to something specifique as 'existence erasure' while leaving Goku vulnerable to stuff related to it like 'existence manipulation'WeeklyBattles said:
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i don't see why it shouldn't work for everyone , save specifique case , the serie constantly show that Ki is an 'all around energie' , when it renforce your body , it renforce everything , inside included (as shown way back in dragon ball with Chaozu who has shown that telekinesis in DB can work inside the body of the opponent)Kaltias said:
any other serie that has shown that their energie source give general resistance rather than specifique resistance should get the same treatment , so i don't see how an injustice done to these series would justify the same injustice being done to DB character
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I'm pretty sure resistance works like: "You resists something, you have resistance to that thing", and not like: "You resists something, you have resistance to everything."
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and ? i'm not claiming Goku ignore any hax , i'm claiming that his resistance is to 'soul hax' in general rather than specificaly 'soul erasure' , Ki resistance as always shown to be given pretty generaly and never shown to only give specific resistancePaulo.junior.969 said:
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