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Devilish Boundaries: Dante vs Yukari Yakumo

KnightOfSunlight said:
She can't regenerate her soul. She can regenerate from her soul, but not the soul itself.
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It states in her profile that she regenerates from her incorporal mind, not her soul.
 
So basically, we know she can resist mind manipulation, but not to what degree, and Dante's fear manip is above baseline resistance, so it would work (also, the moon feat sounds more like resistance to madness manipulation not mind manipulation)

Dante does have his time stop, but in character he doesn't use it immediately and would likely go for direct attacks or shooting. Her Danmaku would probably surprise him enough to make him use DT if it really got going.

That being said, a single hit on her with DSD is enough to kill, and he can multiply the number of hits he can throw out by four, so if Dante gets in close, she's dead.

On the flip side, Yukari's concept shenanigans are absolutely batshit, so I'd say she also only needs a single major attack to win.

So incon for me.
 
Dante's fearhax was used literally once and it was by scaring someone weaker so it's probably not valid
 
He profile says that she is quite lazy and rarely fights seriously, so she won't go all out and her boundary manipulation can sometimes be overpowered, dunno if that last bit would be important here, also: she is vulnerable to spiritual damage but dunno if that works as she regens from her mind.

Also, if he resistance to mind hax isn't enought then I guess he fear haxes her into submision like he did with Alice in the manga.
 
I mean you can still scare someone by power level. It's one thing to resist fear haxx used as an ability, it's one thing to be face to face with someone who's literally so much stronger or someone you feared in the past? Idk, still playing through the game. If it's only used once it makes it more questionable.

Where's that scene in question? For both usages of fearhaxxes? Heck the demons might not even have fear haxx and is just scary to some.
 
By the time of DMC3 it becomes passive in his DT form as demons are stated to cause fear in humans to the point of driving them insane or mad.

Dante is a Demon in his DT form and by the time of the novel precuel of DMC2 he has a fear aura in his base form when he gets serious in battle and the manga, Visions of V shows that he can cause fear in others when he gets pissed, like when V told him that Vergil was back.
 
SpookyShadow said:
Welp... Mid-Godly coming
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Mid-Godly comes from being able to regenerate both mind, body, and soul after being erased from existence. Being able to regenerate from an incorporal mind is still Low-Godly as her mind is still there, just not her body and soul.
 
That pic looks more like intimidation. Scary as hell but I don't trust it as being haxx. And I just checked V's stats, if he's really not anywhere close to Dante's level, I'd be pretty scared too if I was in his shoes. I can't see fear haxx being part of Dante's being too effective on anyone close to his level
 
Ciruno Fortes said:
That pic looks more like intimidation. Scary as hell but I don't trust it as being haxx. And I just checked V's stats, if he's really not anywhere close to Dante's level, I'd be pretty scared too if I was in his shoes. I can't see fear haxx being part of Dante's being too effective on anyone close to his level
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Its not a matter of being as strong as Dante or not its a matter of resistances.
 
AP, power and speed are one thing, hax is another.

Just because he didn't fear hax someone on his tier with resistance doesn't mean he can do it to someone without a good enough resistance.

Also, in case you want to continue this then I recommend making a CRT to either having it changed or deleted from his profile.
 
Ciruno Fortes said:
That pic looks more like intimidation. Scary as hell but I don't trust it as being haxx. And I just checked V's stats, if he's really not anywhere close to Dante's level, I'd be pretty scared too if I was in his shoes. I can't see fear haxx being part of Dante's being too effective on anyone close to his level
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V is already pretty much indifferent to demons who can onehsot him ten times over, there's no way V was just scared of Dante because of his power, especially when he knew for a fact that Dante wasn't even a threat to him
 
Aill be gentol
Just for context, this is V confronting a 7-B demon as a 10-B guy. He REALLY isn't the type of guy to be intimidated by someone just because he's superior, he' still Vergil after all
 
@Twellas

Oh without a doubt. But I hold strong doubts on something that's famous in shonen manga and whatnot on calling an ability to scare people weaker than you an actual haxx. I'm checking his profile and though I see fear resistance as legitimate, fear inducement itself looks suspicious and simple.

But from how I see it...

Dante has basic fear haxx and is waaaaay stronger than demons.

V has fear haxx resistance and can resist said basic fear haxx from Dante and demons who are much much stronger than him.

The issue I see is, the gap between the demons he resist and Dante itself is massive.

And I'm not using the fear haxx itself as the comparison. I'm talking about the fact that anyone who doesn't fear someone who can oneshot you at such a massive scale (cuz Dante >>>>>>>> demons) then that person's insane.


TLDR - Dante's fear haxx on V probably didnt work, but he didn't need that to scare him in the first place. Questionable fear haxx scaling.


Also it's better to share a video than an image like that. The pic is nice but it's not really clear.

Anyway that's all I'll say

Don't twist my words mate. You're comparing similar tiers. I'm comparing big gaps
 
Well, V wasn't scared of Urizen aswell, he only avoided the fight because he knew he would get destroyed, and later was avoiding Nero to fight Urizen because, again, it would be a stomp

So it was just precaution, not fear

And Urizen one shoted DT Dante into a coma for 1 month, power isn't a thing here
 
I mean

this thread is great and all but

Dante doesn't resist conceptual manipulation so

What stops thought based conceptual EE
 
Milly Rocking Bandit said:
Passive fearhax is what stops it.
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Why would being scared of your opponent make you

not want to rid of it immediately

And if it's passive why isnt this a stomp
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
I mean

this thread is great and all but

Dante doesn't resist conceptual manipulation so

What stops thought based conceptual EE
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I dunno, he profile states that she rarely fights seriously as this Dante is the second more serious one far behind DMC2 Dante.

As shown with Alice in the Manga he can make them faint of fear. From that point on Dante has a punching bag that keeps regenerating.
 
@Ciruno

Once again mate, is a matter or resistance to said ability not if they have comparable AP.

V shows he somewhat resist being near a pissed Dante so he can scale to it.

Yukari on the other hand may not have the strongest resistance, not even enough to resist Dante fear hax meaning she gets Alice'd
 
Ciruno Fortes said:
@Twellas
Oh without a doubt. But I hold strong doubts on something that's famous in shonen manga and whatnot on calling an ability to scare people weaker than you an actual haxx. I'm checking his profile and though I see fear resistance as legitimate, fear inducement itself looks suspicious and simple.

But from how I see it...

Dante has basic fear haxx and is waaaaay stronger than demons.

V has fear haxx resistance and can resist said basic fear haxx from Dante and demons who are much much stronger than him.

The issue I see is, the gap between the demons he resist and Dante itself is massive.

And I'm not using the fear haxx itself as the comparison. I'm talking about the fact that anyone who doesn't fear someone who can oneshot you at such a massive scale (cuz Dante >>>>>>>> demons) then that person's insane.


TLDR - Dante's fear haxx on V probably didnt work, but he didn't need that to scare him in the first place. Questionable fear haxx scaling.


Also it's better to share a video than an image like that. The pic is nice but it's not really clear.

Anyway that's all I'll say

Don't twist my words mate. You're comparing similar tiers. I'm comparing big gaps </div>
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There is LITERALLY no reason for V to be afraid, Dante doesn't harm, let alone kill humans and V knows this for a fact, furthermore, it's Morrison that presents V to Dante, which means that the already non-existent chance that Dante would harm him are even lower. We know that V isn't afraid of characters who are 3 tiers above him and are 100% hellbent on ******* him up, so there is really no reason whatsoever to think that V was intimidated by Dante's power, especially when in the Manga pannel we can see Dante's Devil eyes and he has an aura around him, that's the textbook example of how to show when a character is using some sort of fear hax
 
Way I see it... Attempting to seal or BFR someone who freely hops between dimensions likely won't work. And maybe its since I haven't played DMC V but from literally every other media I've seen - canon or crossover wise, Dante has never had any sort of fear hax that I'm aware of. And from what I checked on the links, I'm having a hard time seeing it affect Yukari since youkai are of similar kind. Even then, Dante and Nero don't even send any wave of fear towards nearby humans like Kyrie, Nico, and Lady - all three whom to my knowledge are human. So I'm having heavy doubts it'd be applicable. Meanwhile, Yukari can just bombard Dante from various distances. Yes, Yamato would be a plausable counter, but so can her BFR which seems easier and faster to do than Dante's (when did he even do a BFR in 3 because I legit don't remember seeing him do anything with that until 4). And I don't see any resistance to existence erasure in Dante's profile so Yukari also has that going for her.
 
Edwardtruong2006 said:
I mean
this thread is great and all but

Dante doesn't resist conceptual manipulation so

What stops thought based conceptual EE
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Yukari won't be able to use those abilities before Dante incapacitates her. He also has a way around her regen, that being his sealing
 
His Sealing worked on Mundus who had:

- Dimensional Travel, and it didn't worked

- Portal Creation, and it didn't worked

- Interdimensional Astral Projection, and it didn't worked
 
Jiangshi1 said:
Way I see it... Attempting to seal or BFR someone who freely hops between dimensions likely won't work. And maybe its since I haven't played DMC V but from literally every other media I've seen - canon or crossover wise, Dante has never had any sort of fear hax that I'm aware of. And from what I checked on the links, I'm having a hard time seeing it affect Yukari since youkai are of similar kind. Even then, Dante and Nero don't even send any wave of fear towards nearby humans like Kyrie, Nico, and Lady - all three whom to my knowledge are human. So I'm having heavy doubts it'd be applicable. Meanwhile, Yukari can just bombard Dante from various distances. Yes, Yamato would be a plausable counter, but so can her BFR which seems easier and faster to do than Dante's (when did he even do a BFR in 3 because I legit don't remember seeing him do anything with that until 4). And I don't see any resistance to existence erasure in Dante's profile so Yukari also has that going for her.
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Dante's fear hax can be turned off and it normally is when he's in human form, which means most of the times Nero didn't have a DT before the end of DMC5 so it doesn't apply
 
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