Devil May Cry Revisions

[Js250476]

Well on the bright side of all these downgrades at least that we learned there's a universe splitting entity in DMC lol

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I don't think we can make a profile for Pluto / God since we never see it and it is vague as all hell.

If he exists, then yeah, probably 3-A, but never clarified or shown.

 

[Dark649]

Well on the bright side of all these downgrades at least that we learned there's a universe splitting entity in DMC lol

This entity is likely in the same category as Aesir, Jubileus and Queen Sheba.

 

[Js250476]

I swear Dmc and Bayonetta have more stuff in common everyday lol

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

If we accept that the story in the Devil May Cry Manga official translation about Mundus rebelling against God and him and the demons falling into the Underworld which was created during the War in Heaven, yes, it would seem so. The DMC Manga mentions a Primordial Light which split the Universe into two. It does fit with the Pluto stuff.

Umm....No one would scale at all, but can a profile be made?

What's the point of creating someone's profile about who we have as much information as none of it? There's no need for that. If profile were to be made, it'd end up being akin to one of Salem .

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It would actually be much worse, at least Salem exists.

It would be vaguer than the Castlevania God profile, but at least God is confirmed to exist extensively.

 

[Schnee_One]

^Clearly, this person has never seen Amitabha (Touhou Project)

And it's for the sake of having a profile. But I can see why we wouldn't

 

[Js250476]

Man Dmc just can't get a break lol

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Matt

I do think Pluto can get a page, frankly, just have a note that his existence at all is disputed.

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean...Admittedly, the AP is all we really know, pretty much everything else would be Unknown right?

 

[Js250476]

Couldn't it scale speed wise to all the best speed feats? Since it's presumably the most powerful entity in DMC

 

[Schnee_One]

Couldn't it scale speed wise to all the best speed feats? Since it's presumably the most powerful entity in DMC

Possibly

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

If I were to make a profile for Pluto, this would be the picture:

http://i1.***********.net/devil-may-cry-3/1/devil-may-cry-3-1644919.jpg

But I still prefer not making it since it is ridiculously vague.

 

[Js250476]

For some reason this sounds like a more vauge version of MK's The One Being

 

[Schnee_One]

We've had vaguer if that's even a word

 

[Js250476]

Well if you've had them I don't see the issue with makeing it then

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'm pretty sure this would be the vaguest yet since we don't even know if he exists and it requires using a translation I'm not sure it's accurate.

 

[Schnee_One]

For some reason this sounds like a more vauge version of MK's The One Being

This reminds me.

Could Pluto be nigh-Omnipresent?

It's up to the staff to decide on this. Sadly, no one scales

 

[Js250476]

Does that have to be shown to be included on this wiki?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yup.

http://unionmangas.net/leitor/mangas/Devil May Cry 3/06/09.jpg

The Brazilian Scanlation doesn't mention a War in Heaven either, so I'm not certain it is just some bullshit that the Localization made up.

 

[Js250476]

So it's potentially noncanon?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Hmmmm...thinking about it, wouldn't it be reeeeeealy high end 3-B, given that it says the universe was eventually split in two, meaning it took some time?

Then again, eventually could mean that it took time for the guy to show up in the first place.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Here we go: Japanese RAW.

If someone can translate this we can confirm once and for all which translation is more accurate.

 

[Schnee_One]

So it's potentially noncanon?

More like it potentially didn't happen, the manga is canon

 

[Js250476]

I'm not sure is this off topic or not but Matthew do you know what the best speed feats in DMC are?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's a Sub-Relativistic feat from Abigail. However, even fodder are MHS+ because of stuff like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5uoL2ahmdM

 

[Js250476]

I swear Abigail has all the best shit lol

 

[Sparda_20000000]

If we are making a separate Pluto page then there are evidence that time and space was affected from the split

Ôåæ Devil May Cry 3: Dante's Awakening, Lesser Demons File — Gigapede: "Giant creature that made its way into the Human world through a rift in the time-space fabric. Relentlessly strikes down foes with a high voltage attack."

Ôåæ Devil May Cry 3, Key Item File — Samsara: "Sculpture symbolizing the time-space continuum. Used to restore order to time-space rifts." Ôåæ Devil May Cry 3, In-game note: "Stop the vicious circle by bending time and space. Looks like something can be inserted here."

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

By the way, a lot of our DMC Profiles are garbage.

9-C Lady, 7-A Savior and Trish.

 

[Schnee_One]

^Trush is 7A?! I thought High 7C....

 

[Js250476]

Wow this is ironic were pointing out DMC downplay in this thread lol

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I get that Lady is a human but by DMC 4 she can clearly fight against demons and seems comparable to Trish.

Trish should be High 7-C, the Savior should be High 6-A.

 

[Js250476]

Does Nero scale to the best stuff?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No, but I think he should be "At least High 7-C, likely higher" by the end of the game, since he could fight Sanctus Diabolica who has some of Sparda's power.

Also, 9-C Lady is hilarious, she is blatantly Superhuman even in DMC 3. And can survive stuff like this, which is Room level.

 

[Sparda_20000000]

Nero should be high then Sanctus in the scaling as he did beat him in their second fight and would have beaten him in he first if he hadn't used kyrie against him

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

My idea:

High 7-C: Most people

At least High 7-C, likely Higher: Sparda Arkham, Sanctus Diabolica

Likely / Possibly 6-A: Baul and Modeus, Bolverk

High 6-A: Abigail, Mundus, Sparda, Dante at his Peak, Lucia, Argosax, Arius Argosax, The Saviour

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Do we have any feats for Fodder Demons?

Cause like, here's Lady killing a bunch of Hell Prides with ease:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sf5A2WSdks

I think they should be at least Wall level, since they destroyed the front of Dante's shop:

https://youtu.be/SiGKlfOvZ9k?t=649

She also smashed through a large chunk of ice

https://youtu.be/SiGKlfOvZ9k?t=1068

So yeah, Lady should at least be 9-B.

 

[Dark649]

Arkham was defeated by Dante and Vergil, which are High 7-C and Sanctus was defeated by Nero, who is at least High 7-C.

At least High 7-C: Arkham [Needed 2 High 7-C] and Sanctus [Same. Needed 1 at least High 7-C for defeat]

6-A: Baul, Modeus, Bolverk. [Stomped by casual Dante]

I agree with removing the at least for the High 6-A's and put Trish at High 7-C, also Lady should be 9-A and the seven deadly demons page will be removed since its very bad.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Lady should be 9-A in DMC 3 and High 7-C by the Anime and 4 since she is comparable to Trish.

 

[Dark649]

Lady should be 9-A in DMC 3 and High 7-C by the Anime and 4 since she is comparable to Trish.

Yes, they seem to be comparable in the Anime and 4.