Chainsaw Man: The Mega CRT

[Anonymous_Learner]

I agree with the scaling

 

[Saqphire]

The two immediate examples I think of are-

• Typhoon's City-Spanning Storm, despite its physicals being worse than Reze / The Bomb Hybrid

Was the typhoon devil's storm considered stronger than Reze's bombs ? If it can surpass Reze's durability then check what I got to say about that next

• Blood Devil Power's Blood Manipulation shredding Makima, despite her then getting mauled by zombies and slashed by the Mantis Devil (which couldn't do shit against friggin' Yuko, that weakened Hybrid Denji could kill)

Makima's durability is known to be extremely dogwater yet she is capable of being strong enough to contend with Primals regardless with Power even conceding inferiority to Makima right after Makima revives, regardless of the amount of abilities Power had that outscaled her. the Mantis/Zombie Devils being able to maul Power would fit in the same category tbh

Scaling these devils' durability to their AP will be a whole can of worms imo so I would agree on just not doing that at all (glass cannon ass verse ). But I still stand firm on a higher feared devil's (normal/maximum) AP > a lesser feared devil's maximum AP via narrative portrayal about fear scaling

 

[ElajRuengies]

Was the typhoon devil's storm considered stronger than Reze's bombs ? If it can surpass Reze's durability then check what I got to say about that next

It's a freaking storm- those are Town level bare minimum Environmental Destruction. Typhoon's specifically is listed as Small City level+.

Typhoon can't actually punch that hard, but Reze confirmed that Typhoon was causing it with its power. If we just scaled more feared Devils' physicals above less feared Devils' special powers, then Post-Fear Boost Denji, Post-Fear Boost Yoru, and Makima would be listed as capable of punching with the force of Hydrogen Bombs, which is stupid.

Makima's durability is known to be extremely dogwater yet she is capable of being strong enough to contend with Primals regardless with Power even conceding inferiority to Makima right after Makima revives, regardless of the amount of abilities Power had that outscaled her. the Mantis/Zombie Devils being able to maul Power would fit in the same category tbh

Makima got one(1) hax-based hit off on Darkness and then her arm dissolved the second time she tried it. Makima's durable enough to take a kick to the groin from weakened Pochita, and the instances of her getting shredded are from bullets, which make no sense in Chainsaw Man anyway, and Pochita's chainsaws, which are stupid sharp.

Also the Zombies being able to harm Blood Devil Power don't count as an Anti-Feat when they were also able to stop Weakened Pochita as a group for longer than 5 Hybrids could, somehow, despite how Beginning Hybrid Denji and Fiend Power could take on crowds of them at the start of the story. The zombies are just absurdly more effective under Makima for some reason.

 

[Saqphire]

It's a freaking storm- those are Town level bare minimum Environmental Destruction. Typhoon's specifically is listed as Small City level+.

Typhoon can't actually punch that hard, but Reze confirmed that Typhoon was causing it with its power. If we just scaled more feared Devils' physicals above less feared Devils' special powers, then Post-Fear Boost Denji, Post-Fear Boost Yoru, and Makima would be listed as capable of punching with the force of Hydrogen Bombs, which is stupid.

I mean yeah ofc, DC wise it's far superior to anything Makima/Denji/Yoru showcased with their physicals alone but at that point you can just consider AP not being DC in this case which has been done for a multitude of verses before, Naruto being one of the biggest examples of this with Naruto himself not exerting any real DC feats at Moon Level+ but he still has AP scaling above people who do like Toneri, it's not considered stupid that Naruto can punch with forces capable of destroying literal Small Stars with his AP yet he is Small Star Level+ thanks to multipliers and upscaling from people who do

Makima got one(1) hax-based hit off on Darkness and then her arm dissolved the second time she tried it. Makima's durable enough to take a kick to the groin from weakened Pochita, and the instances of her getting shredded are from bullets, which make no sense in Chainsaw Man anyway, and Pochita's chainsaws, which are stupid sharp.

Also the Zombies being able to harm Blood Devil Power don't count as an Anti-Feat when they were also able to stop Weakened Pochita as a group for longer than 5 Hybrids could, somehow, despite how Beginning Hybrid Denji and Fiend Power could take on crowds of them at the start of the story. The zombies are just absurdly more effective under Makima for some reason.

Yeah that is true, Makima's zombies and the actual Zombie devil are far different in potency, which could've been explained via stuff like Empowerment but that's not really proven to be the case so ¯\(ツ)/¯

 

[ElajRuengies]

I mean yeah ofc, DC wise it's far superior to anything Makima/Denji/Yoru showcased with their physicals alone but at that point you can just consider AP not being DC in this case which has been done for a multitude of verses before, Naruto being one of the biggest examples of this with Naruto himself not exerting any real DC feats at Moon Level+ but he still has AP scaling above people who do like Toneri, it's not considered stupid that Naruto can punch with forces capable of destroying literal Small Stars with his AP yet he is Small Star Level+ thanks to multipliers and upscaling from people who do

Whataboutism. I don't care what other horrendously scaled Verses have, I'm not letting this Verse, where there is an obvious Nuclear Weapons replacement in the Gun Devil pieces, have Mid Tiers be Small City level+.

Neither demonstrably nor thematically are folk like Reze as strong as nukes. And the "AoE/AP Fallacy" isn't a logical fallacy, it's cope. Typhoon's Storm does not scale to anyone's physicals. End of story.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Would Typhoon Devil's storm be considered Environmental Destruction?