Death Battle Season Ten Discussion Thread (1) (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Derpmaster9000]

@Derpmaster9000 it's funny Hit vs Sakuya boils down to who can get the kill shot off now

The discussion used to be on what they'd give Sakuya, mainly when it came to speed.

With the monster-buff death battle decided to give Super's speed stat in GvS 3, yeah, it really is just, "Who shoots first", if they buy Sakuya as immeasurable.(If they don't, and have her at anything lower, including infinite speed, she gets one-shot, lol.)

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Well x vs primal could be a TF w but yeah y'all eating Ls till then

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Primal is ******.

 

[Tipper17]

The discussion used to be on what they'd give Sakuya, mainly when it came to speed.

With the monster-buff death battle decided to give Super's speed stat in GvS 3, yeah, it really is just, "Who shoots first", if they buy Sakuya as immeasurable.(If they don't, and have her at anything lower, including infinite speed, she gets one-shot, lol.)

its funy even when she outguns him in ap speed is the deciding factor now

 

[Tapkmiz]

yeah y'all eating Ls till then

It's kinda funny that the one TF win on the show so far was such a lopsided stomp.

Nahhhhhhhhhhhhhh Primal is ******.

Some VS site is going to cook the weirdest broth you've seen and get a Primal statstomp somehow (this was revealed to me in a dream). Such a shame because it really does work in a lot of ways, Optimus Primal even sounds like a maverick name

 

[Jasonsith]

At least with Megatron vs Frieza I could cook something via other versions or composites.

Unicron is just ******.

Trying to rationale a Unicron win in my head but the more Galactus high end scans I see the more I give up

Especially when Galactus suddenly becomes Lifebringer.
Unicron realise he not built for this.

Also sentences Superman vs Optimus Prime early - reason:
Superman >> Goku = Frieza > Megatron = Optimus Prime
And
Superman = Wonder Woman >= Thor > Vegeta = Goku (ditto)


but this time people would still want it.

 

[Jasonsith]

Another question: how are all matchups fitting into different symbols in the cipher roulette now?

 

[Tipper17]

Legit Need this in the fight

 

[Jasonsith]

Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE!
334,449 views 3 hours ago


334k views in 3 hrs only? We need at least 1 mil in 12 hours and 5 mil views in 1 week to justify this

Next time...

The Galatus vs Unicron is finally real. Okay this is seaon finale worthy.
lso 2 Transformers episode in 1 season.
How many more notable Transformers matchups do we even have?

Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE!
938,421 views Premiered 9 hours ago

THE honoured one.
Can it get past 5m clicks in a week though? And can Galactus vs Unicron surpass this?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Superman >> Goku = Frieza > Megatron = Optimus Prime
And
Superman = Wonder Woman >= Thor > Vegeta = Goku (ditto)

If they do a proper composite for Optimus, I could see him ranking higher. But yeah

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ngl, I kinda hope we get a brief segment of Galvatron and Silver Surfer fighting.

If Galvatron does show up, I think it'd be neat if he was the Megatron from Megs vs Frieza.

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

The discussion used to be on what they'd give Sakuya, mainly when it came to speed.

With the monster-buff death battle decided to give Super's speed stat in GvS 3, yeah, it really is just, "Who shoots first", if they buy Sakuya as immeasurable.(If they don't, and have her at anything lower, including infinite speed, she gets one-shot, lol.)

DB doesn’t distinguish between infinite speed and immeasurable speed as seen with BillCord.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ngl, I kinda hope we get a brief segment of Galvatron and Silver Surfer fighting.

If Galvatron does show up, I think it'd be neat if he was the Megatron from Megs vs Frieza.

That would be ******* awesome to have a segment where the Heralds of Galactus fight Galvatron, Nemesis Prime and The Fallen.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

@Derpmaster9000 it's funny Hit vs Sakuya boils down to who can get the kill shot off now

Now it's truly become a battle of assassin

 

[Derpmaster9000]

DB doesn’t distinguish between infinite speed and immeasurable speed as seen with BillCord.

What they can distinguish for, is upscaling. And that's when things get spicy, when you bring in the Zamasu 'speed feat' that Goku achieved in base, while exhausted.

 

[0ホルスファルコン将軍0]

Another question: how are all matchups fitting into different symbols in the cipher roulette now?

Atom = Ant Man VS The Atom

Swords = Dark Souls VS Skyrim

Beaker = Rick Sanchez VS The Doctor

Question Mark = Bill Cipher VS Discord

Wave = Stitch VS Rocket Raccoon

Dollar Sign = Killua VS Misaka

Yin-Yang = Raven VS Phoenix

Lotus = Vader VS Obito

Half-Moon = Rilo’s Worst Nightmare

Pentagram = Gojo VS Makima

Suits = Scooby VS Courage

Transform = Frieza VS Megatron

Skull and Crossbones = Galactus VS Unicron

Star = Martian Manhunter VS Silver Surfer

Recycle = Goku joining the ozone layer

Scales = Cole VS Alex

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I wonder how they'll handle speed tho, will they make Unicron Immeasurable or just Massively FTL+

 

[Tipper17]

I wonder how they'll handle speed tho, will they make Unicron Immeasurable or just Massively FTL+

Probably immeasurable

 

[RiloKileyFan]

Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE!
938,421 views Premiered 9 hours ago

THE honoured one.
Can it get past 5m clicks in a week though? And can Galactus vs Unicron surpass this?

5 mil in a week?
Nah, most likely 2.5m in a week

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

GvS3 has hit one million views in less than 12 hours. Poggers

 

[Hunterzillas]

Y'know, when you think about it, Superman was totally spared because of Death Battel's premature Goku vs Superman 2. If they had just waited a little while longer, Dragon Ball Super was about to kick off and start with universal feats. Goku would've gotten a W because DC heralds weren't perceived to be universal by any credible versus debater back then.

And now Galactus is about to be saved by Death Battle's delayed release of his fight with Unicron. If they'd gotten to this by when it was most requested, Galactus probably would've lost. He'd have still been rated at something like multiversal, but complete Unicron pulls a Darkseid and supersedes the multiverse. Galactus would still have a shot with the Ultimate Nullifier, but that's not guaranteed to work. Now Galactus has modern comic scaling though, and he scraps this Transformer god.

 

[Phoenks]

Y'know, when you think about it, Superman was totally spared because of Death Battel's premature Goku vs Superman 2. If they had just waited a little while longer, Dragon Ball Super was about to kick off and start with universal feats. Goku would've gotten a W because DC heralds weren't perceived to be universal by any credible versus debater back then.

And now Galactus is about to be saved by Death Battle's delayed release of his fight with Unicron. If they'd gotten to this by when it was most requested, Galactus probably would've lost. He'd have still been rated at something like multiversal, but complete Unicron pulls a Darkseid and supersedes the multiverse. Galactus would still have a shot with the Ultimate Nullifier, but that's not guaranteed to work. Now Galactus has modern comic scaling though, and he scraps this Transformer god.

Actually, by the time they made GvS 2 DBS already had universal feats. They simply scaled both characters horrible incorrectly.

 

[Tipper17]

Actually, by the time they made GvS 2 DBS already had universal feats. They simply scaled both characters horrible incorrectly.

Super universal feats didn't happen like after two weeks after

Toei stuff yeah but nobody Universal dragon ball back then

 

[Spinoirr]

Ah I remember this

 

[Phoenks]

Crazy how Galactus VS Unicron is apparently so requested yet it seems nobody has really made a good video on it.

 

[Tipper17]

Crazy how Galactus VS Unicron is apparently so requested yet it seems nobody has really made a good video on it.

Both characters required high five into there Lore and scaling and Unicron is more niche in a sense

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Yeah, a lot of Unicron's lore quire heavy digging, which is my biggest concern with this episode

 

[Jasonsith]

Atom = Ant Man VS The Atom
Swords = Dark Souls VS Skyrim
Beaker = Rick Sanchez VS The Doctor
Question Mark = Bill Cipher VS Discord
Wave = Stitch VS Rocket Raccoon
Dollar Sign = Killua VS Misaka
Yin-Yang = Raven VS Phoenix
Lotus = Vader VS Obito
Half-Moon = Rilo’s Worst Nightmare
Pentagram = Gojo VS Makima
Suits = Scooby VS Courage
Transform = Frieza VS Megatron
Skull and Crossbones = Galactus VS Unicron
Star = Martian Manhunter VS Silver Surfer
Recycle = Goku joining the ozone layer
Scales = Cole VS Alex

My pick:
Atom = Ant Man VS The Atom
Swords = Dark Souls VS Skyrim
Beaker = Rick Sanchez VS The Doctor
Question Mark = Bill Cipher VS Discord
Wave = Stitch VS Rocket Raccoon
Dollar Sign = Killua VS Misaka
Yin-Yang = Raven VS Phoenix
Lotus = Vader VS Obito
Half-Moon = Rilo’s Worst Nightmare Guts vs Dimitri
Pentagram = Goku vs Superman 3
Suits = Gojo VS Makima
Transform = Frieza VS Megatron
Skull and Crossbones = Scooby VS Courage
Star = Martian Manhunter VS Silver Surfer
Recycle = Galactus VS Unicron
Scales = Cole VS Alex

 

[Deidalius]

Ah I remember this

Holy shit, that pre analysis was awful. Why does CFC talk so much about his OCs? No one cares about them, just talk about the fighters.

These are my issues with animated Boomstick and Wiz taken up to eleven.

The fight was better than I remembered. I remembered it as a badly animated image puppet fight like the early cartoon fight club days.

 

[Shadyboi0]

Might be a blowout but im investing in Unicron stocks.

 

[Jasonsith]

Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE!
938,421 views Premiered 9 hours ago

THE honoured one.
Can it get past 5m clicks in a week though? And can Galactus vs Unicron surpass this?

Goku VS Superman (Dragon Ball VS DC Comics) | DEATH BATTLE!
1,090,484 views 11 hours ago
THE honoured one.

Now, see how fast it gets to the 2m and 2.5m range

 

[Jasonsith]

The discussion used to be on what they'd give Sakuya, mainly when it came to speed.

With the monster-buff death battle decided to give Super's speed stat in GvS 3, yeah, it really is just, "Who shoots first", if they buy Sakuya as immeasurable.(If they don't, and have her at anything lower, including infinite speed, she gets one-shot, lol.)

Will it affect composite Janemba vs composite Utsuho Reiuji?

(Not that Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji can match Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi in "popularity" but it is weird when Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji has more close connections than Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi.)

 

[OverlordDonnelly]

The discussion used to be on what they'd give Sakuya, mainly when it came to speed.

With the monster-buff death battle decided to give Super's speed stat in GvS 3, yeah, it really is just, "Who shoots first", if they buy Sakuya as immeasurable.(If they don't, and have her at anything lower, including infinite speed, she gets one-shot, lol.)

I'm pretty sure she has insta-rez ability cards now that also transmogrify nearby enemies.

Also, her timestop is layered. So that's another thing.

And there's a lot of other things that aren't on her profile or anyone else's profile yet.

Immeasurable DBS is just weird though. Can't say I agree with their reasoning for it.

 

[Braking]

OH MY GODDDDDDD I LOST MY EDGE STREAK TO THE ANIMATION FUCKKKKKKKK

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I just realized they had the classic misconception with that World Forger feat

Superman doesn't get 6-D power from sundipping he got it from a sun in a 6-D plane

damn.

 

[Jasonsith]

... Death Battle DC Universe is only 1.62e63 times a real world universe size?

Should we bust in how big one Touhou universe is? Any good DC vs Touhou Project matchup?
We need DC vs Touhou Project. Dragon Ball vs Touhou Project matchups like Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi and Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji cannot suffice.
Unless... for SMT vs Touhou Project we have Jack Frost vs Cirno I am so excited (so excited I may have some really horrible puns) and some fans are on it so yeah.

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

... Death Battle DC Universe is only 1.62e63 times a real world universe size?

Should we bust in how big one Touhou universe is? Any good DC vs Touhou Project matchup?
We need DC vs Touhou Project. Dragon Ball vs Touhou Project matchups like Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi and Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji cannot suffice.
Unless... for SMT vs Touhou Project we have Jack Frost vs Cirno I am so excited (so excited I may have some really horrible puns) and some fans are on it so yeah.

There’s this one, which looks pretty neat.

This would be pretty sweet too:

If not for the fact that Junko has Granolah as her best opponent.

 

[Deidalius]

... Death Battle DC Universe is only 1.62e63 times a real world universe size?

Should we bust in how big one Touhou universe is? Any good DC vs Touhou Project matchup?
We need DC vs Touhou Project. Dragon Ball vs Touhou Project matchups like Hit vs Sakuya Izayoi and Janemba vs Utsuho Reiuji cannot suffice.
Unless... for SMT vs Touhou Project we have Jack Frost vs Cirno I am so excited (so excited I may have some really horrible puns) and some fans are on it so yeah.

Death Battle tends to use low end arguments when both characters are universal or similar.

If they pit a capeshit character against a non-capeshit character, they will pull the infinite multiverse level to higher dimensional arguments.

That and the only Touhou vs DC matchup I know is Reimu vs Dr. Strange. It's safe to say that Reimu gets GAPES

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

There’s this one, which looks pretty neat.

This would be pretty sweet too:

If not for the fact that Junko has Granolah as her best opponent.

 

[Joycap]

... Death Battle DC Universe is only 1.62e63 times a real world universe size?

Supes buffs inbound?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Ok, so I haven't done my opinion on the analysis, so here it is.

It's fine, could be better, but it's not bad imo.

I liked that they really went in depth with the character histories and their meaning and symbology.

I think Goku is fine for the most part, but the biggest disappointment is how little they actually cover the Heroes stuff. It feels pretty lack luster, especially in comparison to Superman's. I disagree with some things, such as the macrocosm sizes and the hit time skip feat, but overall his analysis was just fine.

Superman's was good and I liked how in depth they went with him, but some problems.

I don't like the idea of him scaling to the Flash, while one could argue he should at least downscale, it's made pretty clear that the main Flashes are faster than he is. Plus Superman has other Immeasurable speed stuff to scale to so scaling to the Flash was not really necessary.

I mentioned the World Forger feat already, this isn't really applicable to Supes' base stats as it was done in the sixth dimension. However, Superman does have some other 2-A to Tier 1 feats I'm surprised Death Battle never even mentioned, like when an emotional Pre Crisis Superman nearly destroyed heaven, to the point the spectre needed to stop him. Or him fighting Jaxxon when he erased all future timelines. Or him defeating an Anti-Life amped Darkseid with the power of hope.

Also the Anti-Matter universe is technically a 2-A feat, but Superman defeated the Anti-Monitor before he could fully absorb it in it's entirety so the validity of it scaling is eh.

So yeah, in terms of high ends, I think Superman beating Goku is somewhat legit, even if I personally think they're not very consistent. A lot of these high ends are treated as Superman at his absolute peak in universe, so they're not scalable to other characters.

Overall, I'd give the analysis a roughly 8/10?