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DEATH BATTLE! Fighting Animation Discussion Thread

Spinoirr said:
Wait if one chaos emerald absorbed allowed Metal to In just one strike he took down bowser then wouldn't his power be multiplied by 6 if he's using all seven chaos emeralds?
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Seems fine. This would put Neo Metal Sonic and Fury Bowser (since he could withstand hits from Neo) at Continent level+ with Attack Potency scaling above 3666 Teratons or 3.6 Petatons.

Also profiles were posted for Bowser and Eggman's minions (no Kamek yet though), someone should probably add their images to the current Season.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
Seems fine. This would put Neo Metal Sonic and Fury Bowser (since he could withstand hits from Neo) at Continent level+ with Attack Potency scaling above 3666 Teratons or 3.6 Petatons.

Also profiles were posted for Bowser and Eggman's minions (no Kamek yet though), someone should probably add their images to the current Season.
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I think bowser should also have “higher with rage boost” since after Jr got smacked down he immediately swat away Super Neo when he got mad, when previously he got smacked around by him
 
Also the difference between the High 6-B+ calc and the next tier (6-A) is only 1.21x

Seeing as how Neo Metal Sonic can stomp Bowser, who performed said feat, should be be 6-A?
 
Ednaxel2 said:
I think bowser should also have “higher with rage boost” since after Jr got smacked down he immediately swat away Super Neo when he got mad, when previously he got smacked around by him
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I think that's notable enough to include as an ability, though I'm unsure if it can fit into the Tier/AP section anywhere given how many forms Bowser has. Maybe just add it as an ability and note how it allows him to easily smack away those who can stomp him previously?
Ednaxel2 said:
Also the difference between the High 6-B+ calc and the next tier (6-A) is only 1.21x

Seeing as how Neo Metal Sonic can stomp Bowser, who performed said feat, should be be 6-A?
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idk at what a gap is too big for it to jump tiers, but I think this seems reasonable. If we're going this route, this upgrades Neo to 4560 Teratons or 4.56 Petatons which is Multi-Continent level
 
I think categories should be made for certain factions, for example:
Eggman Empire (Death Battle)
Koopa Troop (Death Battle)
Wily Army (Death Battle), though there's zero profiles for this yet
 
Hold on, why did I multiply the power of the emeralds only six times. There are seven of them, right? It should actually be 5320 teratons or 5.32 petatons of TNT.

Anyways uhhh, Metal Sonic's Kinetic Energy feat uses calc stacking and they haven't ever shown using their speed to cause harm to others, instead they should be scaling to "8-C, likely 7-C" since even Fodder like Cubot/Orbot and Koopa General scale to that.
Ednaxel2 said:
I think categories should be made for certain factions, for example:
Eggman Empire (Death Battle)
Koopa Troop (Death Battle)
Wily Army (Death Battle), though there's zero profiles for this yet
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I don't know how useful that would be, you mean something like this? I think something like a team/civilization profile would be better overall.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
Anyways uhhh, Metal Sonic's Kinetic Energy feat uses calc stacking and they haven't ever shown using their speed to cause harm to others, instead they should be scaling to "8-C, likely 7-C" since even Fodder like Cubot/Orbot and Koopa General scale to that.
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Alright then I’ll change it to that
Diamond_Drone said:
I don't know how useful that would be, you mean something like this?
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Yes
Diamond_Drone said:
I think something like a team/civilization profile would be better overall.
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Both can work imo
 
MintyBoi1

Thread 'Escape or Serve? (White vs DB Metal Sonic) [GRACE]'

  • Eggman vs Wily Neo Metal is used
  • Speed is equalized
  • Fight takes place in one of Eggman’s bases
  • SBA for anything else
Metal Sonic Is Scrapped: 4 (Otter, Minty, Javen, Volt)
(Scales to 0.25 Tons of TNT)

White Joins the Eggman Empire:
(Scales above 0.29 Tons of TNT)

Inconclusive:
  • MintyBoi1
  • death battle! metal sonic (death battle!) stickman project : rebirth white (stickman project : rebirth)
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  • Forum: Versus Battles
 
Now that I think about it, shouldn't Sage have access to the Death Egg in Standard Equipment and be High 6-A with the seven Chaos Emeralds by scaling to Super Neo Metal Sonic? She already has the Chaos Emeralds listed as optional equipment, so I think that'd be fair to include.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
and be High 6-A with the seven Chaos Emeralds by scaling to Super Neo Metal Sonic? She already has the Chaos Emeralds listed as optional equipment, so I think that'd be fair to include.
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she hasn’t shown being able to power herself with the Chaos Emeralds like Metal has, but she can power and control the death egg which can obliterate Fury Bowser
 
Ednaxel2 said:
she hasn’t shown being able to power herself with the Chaos Emeralds like Metal has, but she can power and control the death egg which can obliterate Fury Bowser
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Wouldn't that still give her High 6-A with the seven Chaos Emeralds? None of Eggman's machines have shown the strength to actually harm or combat Fury Bowser at all with the exception of Super Neo Metal, who had all the Chaos Emeralds (will note that he was shown using them when he first appeared in that form, not just when he died as it states in his profile), so the Death Egg being able to harm and vaporize Fury Bowser to his skeleton suggests she can still use the emeralds to an extent even if we're presuming she can't power herself up.

Also yeah, I'm skeptical that Sage couldn't use the emeralds to empower herself or others, since one of Moro's tweets after BowsEgg's release had Bowser using the Chaos Emeralds alongside Sonic the Hedgehog while Eggman and Mario used the Power Stars. It's kind of a stretch, but I think the intentions are shown pretty clearly enough to give some sort of rating to Sage, who as an Eggman General should be more capable of using the emeralds than Bowser.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
Wouldn't that still give her High 6-A with the seven Chaos Emeralds? None of Eggman's machines have shown the strength to actually harm or combat Fury Bowser at all with the exception of Super Neo Metal, who had all the Chaos Emeralds (will note that he was shown using them when he first appeared in that form, not just when he died as it states in his profile), so the Death Egg being able to harm and vaporize Fury Bowser to his skeleton suggests she can still use the emeralds to an extent even if we're presuming she can't power herself up.

Also yeah, I'm skeptical that Sage couldn't use the emeralds to empower herself or others, since one of Moro's tweets after BowsEgg's release had Bowser using the Chaos Emeralds alongside Sonic the Hedgehog while Eggman and Mario used the Power Stars. It's kind of a stretch, but I think the intentions are shown pretty clearly enough to give some sort of rating to Sage, who as an Eggman General should be more capable of using the emeralds than Bowser.
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Sorry to break it for you Diamond, but why should we take into account his tweets at all? Especially when they aren't part of the Death Battle at all, this drawing of his has nothing to do with the actual episode, so not, Sage shouldn't get any super form with this dumb argument of yours
 
Yeah coming back here and I ain't still a fan of how FuarRu made their introduction, just hoping you don't spend your christmas responding like that.

Anyway the point with that tweet (singular) was that Moro, the animator of the fight who has done a QnA about the DB and (as far as i am aware, i'n not a twitter user) posted things related about the battle for several weeks, portrays the emeralds as something that don't require absorption or any special abilities to use like Metal has (which by the way Metal tried to absorb the Ruby not use it, using it has a different style as shown with infinite) and we can already assume that just because someone uses the emeralds doesn't necessarily mean that they have to get a super form, the Death Egg didn't glow yellow did it?

Also Sage getting powered up by the emeralds could fix her having the LS to casually overpower everyone in base, seeing as we already accept the emeralds as being able to increase LS as seen with Metal. So I propose that Sage's Class P feat scales to the seven emeralds (which doesn't really have any contradictions) and we apply the Multiplier logic to it in reverse so...

Proposed stats:
Attack Potency: 8-C, likely 7-C physically (same as before, unchanged), High 6-A with the Chaos Emeralds (As a general she should be capable of using the Chaos Emeralds to power herself and others up, making her comparable to Super Neo Metal), way higher with the Death Egg (Implied to have used the Emeralds to power the Death Egg to max power, allowing her to reduce Fury Bowser to his skeletal form and cause a huge crater with the leftover energy)
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Lifting Strength (Sage): At least Class 25 with telekinesis (Reasoning already on page, plus upscaling from Metal who could throw a chain chomp), Class P with the Chaos Emeralds (Completely unfazed by the pull of the Grand Star black hole, which pulled in every other machine in the vicinity)
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Lifting Strength (Metal): Class 25 physically (Same as before, unchanged), Class T as Neo Metal Sonic (Could overpower Bowser effortlessly and uses the power of a single Chaos Emerald), Class P as Super Neo Metal Sonic (Could effortlessly lift Bowser, should be comparable to Sage with the seven Emeralds)
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Also, let's upgrade Infinite to Large Country level+ due to him making even Bowser struggle, Infinite clearly intends to kill using the Ruby as seen with him crushing all the generals so it makes sense he'd try it with Bowser too.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
Also Sage getting powered up by the emeralds could fix her having the LS to casually overpower everyone in base, seeing as we already accept the emeralds as being able to increase LS as seen with Metal. So I propose that Sage's Class P feat scales to the seven emeralds (which doesn't really have any contradictions) and we apply the Multiplier logic to it in reverse so...

Proposed stats:
Also, let's upgrade Infinite to Large Country level+ due to him making even Bowser struggle, Infinite clearly intends to kill using the Ruby as seen with him crushing all the generals so it makes sense he'd try it with Bowser too.
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These seems good.
 
Diamond_Drone said:
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Well no one objected to this for some time so I made the changes.

Also I thought it be interesting to list the heights Metal Sonic has in his Overlord forms next to his Large Size as justification in the P&A section, turns out that lead to me realizing that the Metal Overlord calcs were perhaps a bit exaggerated in some aspects and underwhelming in others (also the heights were nowhere near to qualify for the Type given).
 
Spinoirr

Thread 'Adam (Dragon Ball RWBY) vs Bardock (Death Battle)'

Bardock heard that some crazy grown ass man tried to manipulate, gaslight and use his own son as a weapon when he was a kid and Adam was a adult and hearing of how Adam tried to kill his son after he left the WF

Rules:
Bardock starts in base (7-C version)
Fight takes place in Argus on Remnant
Speed is equalized
Fight takes place during sunset when a full moon will rise

Adam:

One pissed off saiyan dad:

Icon:
  • Spinoirr
  • adam taurus (dragon ball rwby) bardock (death battle!) death battle death battle! dragon ball rwby
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  • Forum: Versus Battles
 
Diamond_Drone said:
Anyway the point with that tweet (singular) was that Moro, the animator of the fight who has done a QnA about the DB and (as far as i am aware, i'n not a twitter user) posted things related about the battle for several weeks, portrays the emeralds as something that don't require absorption or any special abilities to use like Metal has (which by the way Metal tried to absorb the Ruby not use it, using it has a different style as shown with infinite) and we can already assume that just because someone uses the emeralds doesn't necessarily mean that they have to get a super form, the Death Egg didn't glow yellow did it?

Also Sage getting powered up by the emeralds could fix her having the LS to casually overpower everyone in base, seeing as we already accept the emeralds as being able to increase LS as seen with Metal. So I propose that Sage's Class P feat scales to the seven emeralds (which doesn't really have any contradictions) and we apply the Multiplier logic to it in reverse so...
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So I know the profiles are gonna die and all due to... that, but can I get everyone's opinion on this again? Something came that is... rather annoying, so I think it's wise to finalize the stats and equipment before preserving it on some sandbox, blog or something.

Edit: Oh and there's also this.
Diamond_Drone said:
Also I thought it be interesting to list the heights Metal Sonic has in his Overlord forms next to his Large Size as justification in the P&A section, turns out that lead to me realizing that the Metal Overlord calcs were perhaps a bit exaggerated in some aspects and underwhelming in others (also the heights were nowhere near to qualify for the Type given).
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Diamond_Drone said:
So I know the profiles are gonna die and all due to... that, but can I get everyone's opinion on this again? Something came that is... rather annoying, so I think it's wise to finalize the stats and equipment before preserving it on some sandbox, blog or something.
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Yeah I feel like these pages need a little bit of quality control. I'm super invested in this, but even at a passing glance and even if the transfer is to go through, there's a bunch wrong with this and the calcs that apply to it, even when I pave over the grammar and formatting mistakes

I don't evaluate stuff much anymore but I'm willing to make an exception to just make sure stuff like "The castle is 110 meters high, it has a volume of X, this means Satanael caused an explosion 10 kilometers in radius" doesn't just fly under the radar (And the stats are a bit odd, even taking the calcs at totally face value)
 
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