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I will when I make Crash
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DEATH BATTLE! Fighting Animation Discussion Thread
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The render looks straight out of the episode and in good quality, and the calcs look great as well
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Crash Bonk (Crash Bandicoot vs The Scout)
Speed is unequalized Fight takes place in an open field and starting distance is 5 meters Win via knockout, incap, or death SBA for anything else Mask: (Scales to 0.02707 Tons of TNT; 136.65 m/s) Soda: (Scales to 0.0138 Tons of TNT, 0.0242 Tons with BONK!; 157.48 m/s) Magic Bombs:
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this can just be reworked in some time
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References for Common Feats
Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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DiamondDrone already recalced that in the comments. Both of these feats are no longer the ones being used on profiles and the characters had their tiers changed. So what’s the point of keeping the feats?this can just be reworked in some time
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References for Common Feats
Throughout fiction and real life, there have been numerous feats demonstrating a certain character's or object's destructive power. This page's purpose is to consolidate calculations for those feats for better convenience in determining an object's or character's Attack Potency or Durability...
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It seems like he just replaced the one in the Galaxia profile with one already done in the common reference page so eh
Both can be removed since the common reference page already has the calcs. But Reverse Flash’s feat is still 4-B
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Alright, I’ll move them both since they’ve been replaced with common feats.
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Also Trunks blows up a building flung by Silver
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Trunks pulverized a building which is already on the references for common feats page, Silver can lift a giant rock via telekinesis which already got calced, and both should be easily Subsonic. That's for base forms, idk if the calcs I did for their Super Forms are fine or not
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Could you link the building pulverization for specifics?
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I might try to calculate that
Looks good but Silver should also have resistance to cosmic radiations and minor resistance to temperature resistance, as per the space survival page
Space Survival
Space Survival is the power to survive unassisted in the hostile environment of outer space for extended periods. Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: Without an atmosphere to filter it out, space harbors immense amounts of cosmic radiation, so any character capable of enduring it would have to...
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Added Space SurvivalLooks good but Silver should also have resistance to cosmic radiations and minor resistance to temperature resistance, as per the space survival page
Space Survival
Space Survival is the power to survive unassisted in the hostile environment of outer space for extended periods. Resistance to Radiation Manipulation: Without an atmosphere to filter it out, space harbors immense amounts of cosmic radiation, so any character capable of enduring it would have to...
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That seems about right
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Here's a Tetsuo's sandbox I'm currently making.
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I’m pretty sure the energy ball Tetsuo made was a Big Bang. They specifically mentioned he could make those and how Magneto could control them so I think it’s fair to give them both ratings based on that.
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You do know you are suggesting it to the same person who only uses and added those abilities/feats if they are specifically stated by the characters or atleast shown through its destruction in the animation itself and even debated with him once in a while, right?
Even then, we haven't seen the direct aftermath of it since Magneto contained it inside of the ball before it could even have its effect on the city, so we can't just jump straight to Universal level immediately. Show, Don't Tell is kinda an gimmick in these things.
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It literally was shown in the animation but ok. Excuse me for trying to make a suggestion to make the profile more accurate. You’re talking about show don’t tell so what’s the problem with the Big Bang when that’s the only thing in Tetsuo’s arsenal that could be suggested by an energy ball exactly like in the animation?You do know you are suggesting it to the same person who only uses and added those abilities/feats if they are specifically stated by the characters or atleast shown in the animation itself and even debated with him once in a while, right?
Even then, we haven't seen the direct aftermath of it since Magneto contained it inside of the ball before it could even have its effect on the city, so we can't just jump straight to Universal level immediately. Show, Don't Tell is kinda a gimmick in these things.
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It is shown but what about the destruction/impact it has on the city? Cuz after Magneto contained it in a ball, the city was pretty okay (Mostly likely it's effects weren't kicking in) before he just blasted a beam straight into it.
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I think it was mitigated because Magneto compressed it to only damage Tetsuo’s body. Before it enveloped the whole screen in white, likely suggesting it would’ve have a large effect on the universe they were in. I don’t think Tetsuo has any other powers that resemble Energy Manipulation so that just makes the most sense and explains why they felt the need to mention that in the conclusion. Sure we’re just using feats from the fight, but those feats are expanded upon in the post fight analysis.
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And not talk about how its caused a large explosion to occurred once Magneto fires it and left a deep hole afterwards? Likely suggesting its would've been just a Nuclear-like explosion that destroyed the city? Something like that happens in Ragna VS Sol with an white-colored explosion that enveloped the entire screen, and going off of that, it would've gained the same result.
Although, I do like the thought of Magneto compressing the explosion's destruction energy into just a ball of energy sooo...
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Magneto compressing it also means reducing how much damage it would do. He isn’t the type to let the universe be destroyed as shown at the start by him mentioning his sadness over Mutant oppression and his mercy killing of Tetsuo. His empathy and wanting to save Tetsuo wouldn’t let him just kill everything around, likely including himself. There’s also the context of Akira which separates it from that Ragna vs Sol example, of course that is outside of the animation but I believe we should take into account those intentions since they were taken into account for the animation. Also there we can see the explosion going into the sky instead of enveloping everything around.
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Wiz: Especially given how the detonations from this form were compared to that of a Big Bang... although the authenticity of that observation is questionable. In truth, the Big Bang was a sudden expansion of matter on a universal scale, whereas Tetsuo's explosions are more akin to nuclear blasts. Clearly intentional, given the post-war symbolism of the Akira story.
Boomstick: The whole "creating an alternate universe" bit wasn't even part of the original material, so we can't exactly call it canon.
They directly said that Tetsuo's explosions were more akin to nuclear blasts and even Wiz straight-up implied that the whole Big Bang bit is superfluous which means...
Thus further supporting my point of it being rather a nuclear blast and not a "Big Bang"... even if we are only taking feats/abilities as shown in the animation.
Ok... and? Because right after that, it started enveloping everything after because the mutated Tetsuo fired that beam- and oh hey! A explosion that has a beam going straight into the space! While different in some ways... it still the same thing regardless: A beam that is fired into sky and eventually through space before it dies out.
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They also said this:
Wiz: But let's just say the comparison wasn't superfluous. Let's say Tetsuo did in fact cause a Big Bang capable of creating or destroying an entire universe, alternate or otherwise.
Boomstick: Turns out Magneto had the tools to stop that, too. Helmethead could overpower Hercules, who was strong enough to hold up the skies of Olympus, which is literally Heaven AND an alternate universe!
Wiz: This doesn't necessarily mean Magneto could easily destroy a universe with a snap of his fingers, but it does prove he can match a similar level of power. And context is everything. Tetsuo's Big Bang eruption specifically exhibited proton collapse, meaning its atomic structure was primarily an unstable mess of neutrons and electrons, and Magneto has detected and commanded unstable electrons before. This means Magneto had every means available to take control over this Big Bang.
I suppose it being more nuclear makes sense with the point of Akira, though they did take into account the Big Bang for scaling and mentioned how Magneto could specifically control a Big Bang like what seems to happen in the animation to cement him beating Tetsuo.
In Ragna vs Sol, that looks like it’s because of the camera being pointed towards the blast because we see outside of its radius right before it covers the screen. And Naruto vs Ichigo is completely different since it’s referencing the Storm games where Naruto’s explosion is represented like that. Magneto vs Tetsuo is referencing the end of the Akira movie where Tetsuo makes a new universe and combining that with statements of him being able to make a Big Bang I’m pretty sure. Either way, it’s visually different from either of those two examples.
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Also on it not destroying the city, there’s barely any damage to the surroundings from Magneto compressing the ball, so we can’t really gauge how much power it would’ve had because it’s clearly more than what was shown from just the raw area damage. We just know it was strong enough to destroy Tetsuo’s body which is 6-C.
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Should I wait on the calc or just upload Silver now?
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You can make the profile now, I can always add the calc later
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I think you made a mistake with the Class E feat. +19 would be Class Z I’m pretty sure so I might have to just change that.
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Class Z is e+21?
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Class Z Metric Tons is 10^18-10^21
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You’re looking at kilograms
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Two Hogs One Timeline (DB Archie Silver vs Smash Bracket Silver)
Base DB Silver is used Speed is equalized Win via knockout, incap, or death SBA for anything else Time Hog: (Scales to 10.4785 Kilotons of TNT) No Use: (Scales to 35.4 Kilotons of TNT) They Get Juice:
Archie Sonic vs Omni-Man
Super Sonic and Vs Homelander Omni-Man are used Speed is equalized Fight takes place on a desolate planet Win via incap or death SBA for anything else Hedgehog: (Scales above 158.9084 Tons of TNT) Viltrumite: (Scales above 199.6 Tons of TNT) Man:
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