When is the word "only" literally ever used in a situation like that? It's besides the point. The universe is described as 3-D.
This is laughable. He referenced the scan because it addressed the universe as three-dimensional. That does not magically alter the meaning of the word "world" in an unrelated scan, which is directly contrasted against the physical universe.
Your previous post is incoherent and has no bearings on what we should do next.
It must be bliss
This doesn’t answer my question. I asked you how the scan talking about humans and God being made up of the same substance = your previous statement “all humans are made up of God.” So are you gonna answer this question or are you gonna pretend like you never said this?
First of all, you’re completely ignoring the context. The scan said the “shamanic” universe, which is referring to the religion of shamanism. It’s like saying the Christian universe or the Hindu universe, which is another way of addressing those religions. Meaning Dr. Varma is not referring to the universe that he exists in, he’s referring to a religion.
This seem extremely ironic coming from someone that has now dodged not one, but two different posts completely debunking his CRT.
No one ever says this. This interpretation is an extremely bizarre way of denying what's on the scan. I've never heard someone say "the Christian Universe" to refer to the religion of Christianity, and I would be very surprised if you were able to produce any source that refers to it as such.
No, it does not contradict his claim at all. The two scans use the word "world" differently. There is nothing contradictory about using one scan to inform another, despite the fact that they use a generic term in different contexts. This is a rather desperate attempt at a rebuttal.
Not only did you take my words wrong and misinterpreted them, you decided to ignore what I said again
This is dumb nothing more, DeagonX already addressed this
Bro take a rest at this point.
I didn’t misinterpret your words. You edited your comment today and changed what you said. Here’s what you originally said that I quoted and responded to.
I’m not going to argue with two people simultaneously. If you want to use his arguments, go ahead. Just don’t expect me to argue with both of you at the same time.
So let me get this straight. Within the scan talking about the physical universe, your proof of the word “world” being in reference to a planet is because you believe the physical universe is 3-D. And your proof of the physical universe being 3-D is a another scan that doesn’t describe the physical universe as 3-D but instead describes our world as 3-D. But now you’re claiming the context is different between the scans? If the context is different then why are you connecting the two scans together?
? I’m trying to be as reasonable as possible here. Hell I even acknowledged in this thread multiple times that certain parts of my original post weren’t totally accurate. However I don’t know how you expect me to reason with someone who is literally calling my arguments “bull shit” and “dumb” without actually offering much of an explanation.
Lol. This is a shallow excuse for avoiding arguments that have debunked you.
He's referring to the context of the use of the term "world" not the greater background of what the scans are discussing. This is not remotely complicated.
Reasonable people change their minds after being thoroughly debunked.
"Without offering much of an explanation?" Ridiculous. You have downright dodged giant posts debunking yours in order to persist in smaller arguments you feel more comfortable with because the ones you are avoiding have blown up your reasoning.
I already explained literally why the argument was BS, why would I call your argument BS without explaining??
Tag where and when I connected the two scans together, I’d like to see the place
Great I’m done arguing with you since it’s derailing anyway
I edited the comment since I feel like you love to misinterpret everything and everyone. So I made it easier for you to get what I mean.
“This physical universe, the very body of god, is a system of whole consisting of smaller and smaller whole spiraling down until our world, our individual mind are but a single cell in the body of god”
So far although practically the OP has been debunked, he refuses to edit his post or change his argument and refuses to even continue debating so we can tackle the other points. He just decided to drag the thread on
I wouldn't say there is a consensus, but aside from OP the people still engaged with the discussion have reached a conclusion of 3-A to Low 2-C rather than High 1-A.
For the universe low 2-C.
Yes I can do that.
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If I can know the right justification to Be used, I believe I can help.
Just trying to write up a cosmology explanation accurately although looking through them, it’s better to treat some issues differently due to inconsistencies that may occur
My bad, I am not really sure how to do that. I usually don't make edits that big.
You quite literally were refusing to offer an explanation for the universe being a 3-A structure until you posted a scan later on in this thread. And that scan didn’t even support your point. The scan equated our world with something 3-D, and not the universe like you claimed.
I’ll quote the part of your comment where you connected the two scans
I didn’t ask you why you edited your comment. I said “how are you gonna edit your comment to change what you originally said and then accuse me of misinterpreting it?” Which is a pretty weird thing to do. You could have just explained what you truly meant instead of trying to play pointless games.
Where does it say humans are the smaller wholes in the physical universe????? Can you at least post the scan?
It's dumb because no one says "the _____ Universe" to refer to a religion. No one says "The Islamic Universe" to refer to Islam.
He never connected the two scans. The "3-D" scan tells us that the universe is 3-D. That doesn't connect it to the other scan.
It doesn't. It is the conclusion Buddy draws during his quote about coal and diamonds, right before referring to himself as the Body of God. It does, however, say that human minds and worlds are cells in that quote.
Can you send me the scan of buddy creating a universe let me upload it to imgur so I can edit the pages properly
That literally wasn’t the point. The point was that the scan is referring to the cosmology of shamanism and not the irl universe
The 3-D scan calls our world 3-D. It never calls our universe a 3-D structure. Like, I don’t understand why you can’t get this through your head.
In the scan about coal and diamonds, Buddy draws the conclusion that the divine and humans are made up of the same substance. No where does Buddy state that humans are the wholes within the system making up the Body of God like what Pain said. Also the interpretation of humans being the wholes wouldn’t even make sense to begin with as the wholes within the system are literally treated as constituting larger wholes. And unless you think smaller humans in DC make up larger humans, which then go on to make up larger humans, then idk what to tell you.
Also why is it a second key? Shouldn’t it vary from his base? As that is what we agreed upon earlier in the thread.
Okay? Then you shouldn't have said that. These were your words: It’s like saying the Christian universe or the Hindu universe.
First, you literally argued on this same page that "the term world is consistently used to refer to planes of existence." Which means your opinion was that "man's world" refers to "man's plane of existence" which is the universe. Now you are backtracking that again?
The scan literally includes "our individual minds" as part of this system, which means if we were to enforce this absurd interpretation, canonically human minds make up larger human minds which then go on to make up larger human minds.
