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DBS Speed Discussion
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Whis could travel 72 quadrillion times FTL.
However Beerus could travel 3/4 of that speed on his own while supressed.
However Beerus could travel 3/4 of that speed on his own while supressed.
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I think it was the episode where he fought a random dinosaur alien (I think...)
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It was somewhere in the first five episodes. I think episode 2 or 3.
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If I am not mistaken this proportion comes from the fact that Whis travels to a planet in X time while Bills would take 4/3X to reach this planet.
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It would just make Beerus a lesser degree of MFTL+.
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52 quadrillion times FTL.
I mean they did just say 3/4 of Whis'.
I mean they did just say 3/4 of Whis'.
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Speed he used to get there, it should be less than casual (SSJG level).
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I think Whis has a better feat in Episode 69
He travelled to earth within a minute from Beerus's planet.
He travelled to earth within a minute from Beerus's planet.
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Beerus literally flew in a direct straight line towards Goku and Goku reacted to that and hit him mid flight. I highly doubt Beerus while massively powering up, having his ki charged and showing the most amount of strength we've ever seen from him in a fight against someone he thinks it's his destiny to battle would surpress his speed thousands to billions of times more than when he's taking casual flights around to get food.
Also for these people to be able to land in the planet, city or building that they want to while travelling across the entire universe at such massive speeds, they'd have to have comparable reactions. Or at the very least their reactions aren't any more than
Also for these people to be able to land in the planet, city or building that they want to while travelling across the entire universe at such massive speeds, they'd have to have comparable reactions. Or at the very least their reactions aren't any more than
72000000000000000 times slower than their flight.
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When is it actually implied that Whis's staff makes him faster.
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Both are just flight via ki, the rainbow is more of an animation effect that occurs in flight than that.
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I'm not saying Beerus is as fast as SSG Goku. He's much faster. Just that Beerus wouldn't be restricting his speed orders of magnitude more when he was fighting SSG Goku than when he was casually flying to other planets.
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How is that contradictory?
- SSG Goku can react to and intercept of a suppressed Beerus.
- That suppressed Beerus shouldn't be orders of magnitude slower than his utterly casual and effortless MFTL+ feats.
- Beerus when he isn't surpressed at full speed is faster than SSG Goku.
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The warp speed Whis uses isn't him actually moving though. Its similar to Instant Transmission in the fact its a travel technique only.
Have we ever had anything even said the Warp was Whis moving with his own speed? Or is it just assumption? Because we have way more solid MFTL+ feats.
Beerus appearing on that planet for example.
Have we ever had anything even said the Warp was Whis moving with his own speed? Or is it just assumption? Because we have way more solid MFTL+ feats.
Beerus appearing on that planet for example.
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Since when was that stated to be warp speed?
Beerus appearing on that planet was scaled off the "warp speed" to begin with.
@Mr. Common Sense that title tho
Beerus appearing on that planet was scaled off the "warp speed" to begin with.
@Mr. Common Sense that title tho
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The title makes me laugh so hard.
The title makes me laugh so hard.
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Its called the warp in-verse and appears different compared to any usage of ki flight seen. Whenever the characters fly, its usually with or without the certain aura.SomebodyData said:
This movement uses something entirely different in terms of aura, and notice how the space inside the beam is also differently colored and appearing.
It doesn't seem to be Whis moving on his own ki, just using that specifically for travel. Also we never saw Whis travelling to the planet?
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So, what's the problem here? That you think Whis' feat is an outlier? If Whis used warp to get there, and Beerus followed casually then it's still a speed feat since beerus doesn't have access to the warp ability; only his own flight. So the calculations, be it warp or actual flight by Whis, is still a feat for Beerus.
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I personally think that using a separate instance of the feat in question to say that Beerus is always 3/4 the speed of Whis is fallacious, but Beerus is definitely comparable to Whis and is quadrillions if times FTL regardless.
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It is? I don't believe it ever is called that.
That is more likely to be an effect.
So even if we assume warp is a technique, you don't know if he even used it to get to the planet.
Oh btw, Beerus and Goku have shown to compare, so even if it is a technique, it scales.
That is more likely to be an effect.
So even if we assume warp is a technique, you don't know if he even used it to get to the planet.
Oh btw, Beerus and Goku have shown to compare, so even if it is a technique, it scales.
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Its said somewhere, I just don't remember where.
But have we ever seen Whis use Warp in terms of combat, or just whenever he needs to travel? I mean it definitely scales to him in terms of travel speed, but combat isn't exactly the same thing. It seems weird to scale what might be just a technique to all forms of speed for Whis.
Were they comparing to Whis when in warp or just his casual ki?
But have we ever seen Whis use Warp in terms of combat, or just whenever he needs to travel? I mean it definitely scales to him in terms of travel speed, but combat isn't exactly the same thing. It seems weird to scale what might be just a technique to all forms of speed for Whis.
Were they comparing to Whis when in warp or just his casual ki?
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I only remember it in games, which are non-canon.
Again, assuming its a technique
Well there was the 3/4 comparsion above which was warp, and even base goku managed to fall in the middle of it but was able to get back on quickly.
Again, assuming its a technique
Well there was the 3/4 comparsion above which was warp, and even base goku managed to fall in the middle of it but was able to get back on quickly.
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Just for the record, I'm assuming we're ignoring this whole "Maximum Light Speed" thing's name as PIS?
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Equal reactions. He's able to react to and counterattack beings with similar speed.
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