DBH and DBX speed

[Zenkaibattery1]

Most important scan (s) probably:

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/KbiTz6hLzmd

^^ Every single Dragon Ball game is part of DBH. All statements and feats scale to DBH.

Speed

Boudokai Tenkaichi:

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/bs37qkoJcKg

Goku and Kid Buu fought at instantaneous speed

DBO:

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/RUztShPpMFk

Mira transcended time.

DBX:

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/9bgvQT6RZiG

Towa, Mira and Demigra exist beyond the natural flow of time

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+rs53abxdafg/posts/NwePaaYAsYh

Demigra can exist beyond time space and so can the Future Warrior and Goku [Remember that the crack of time is a space/dimension beyond the space-time of the DBX Multiverse]

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/UHg9rWVSh2M

Xenoverse Goku knows Cooler, which means their feat of fighting at instant speed stands

DBH

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/JvA9zit1boM

Supreme Kai of time, Vegeta and trunks can move in the Crack of Time. The only people that have been able to exist there have 4-D power. Kai of time is 4-D because she can destroy timelines and Xeno Trunks is stronger than her. An earlier scan about the CoT states it's a dimension beyond the space and time of the 4th dimension

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/eiqwVb6Ch49

Towa, Mira, Trunks and Chronoa exist beyond space and time [This is not referencing the crack of time. They literally just exist beyond it]. By extension so can Demigra

DBFZ

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/9A2Ljo5Bvy8

Hit's attacks are beyond time

Dokkan battle

https://imgur.com/GA9ntLd

We transcend time in dokkan battle

This would give all if not most game profiles immeasurable speed. Such as the FW, Demigra, Towa and Mira. There are also scans of Mira moving in Chronoas time stop which can't be an outlier with everything showed here.

 

[Antvasima]

You can ask the people listed under Dragon Ball in the Knowledgeable Members List to comment here if you wish.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Alright. But what do you think of it

 

[Antvasima]

I do not know. Sorry.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

BUMP

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Most of these seem okay to me.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Recently got another scan of transcending time. Editing the main post

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

@Knight

What are your thoughts? Do you agree or disagree? I have also messaged some people to comment here.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

I would also like to point out that if Demigra by extension doesn't count...

Then well, he stole all of Towa's powers when she was killed so :^)

 

[LordGinSama]

Seems pretty good in my opinion. Everything looks valid.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Most of these quotes sound like hyperbole to me personally.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

@Warren

Not really when there are multiple statements of them

Goku and Kid Buu are shown in the scan to fight at that speed. On screen feat.

Mira transcended time as shown in the scan. The scan is translations of a feat shown on screen

The crack of time is stated to be a space beyond space-time of the multiverse, and they are shown in the scan to exist there.

Towa and mira exist beyond the natural flow of time, when there was a time distortion they weren't affected at all

Them existing beyond time and space physically is literaly shown in the scans+ translations are given

We transcend time in Dokkan battle on screen

The only real "hyperbole" there is Hit.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

There is a point where things stop being a hyperbole. If a feat is shown consistentally I don't see how it can be called hyperbole.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Even if immeasurable is rejected, they should at least get Infinite because Towa and Mira exist outside the normal flow of time.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

@Blue

I'm pretty sure that's immeasurable. Also, there are just way too many statements of them transcending time, existing beyond space and time physically for it to be a hyperbole.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Well, some people have infinite speed because of that so I am not sure. I do however believe this should qualify for immeasurable.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'll wait for more opinions on most of these (namely, that of Matt, Ever, and/or Azzy), as I could go either way until truly sold. However, I should point out the ones that are either not legit, not immeasurable, iffy at best, or needs more evidence.

• Point 1: Fighting in instant transmission. Infinite. Not immeasurable.

• Point 4: Proof that the crack of time is beyond time? Any scans or quotes? The name alone gives evidence of it not being beyond time, so we're gonna need far more than your word alone, no offense.

• Point 5: Same as point 1. Infinite, not immeasurable.

• Point 6: Same as point 4.

• Point 8: Not legit, and hyperbole at best. It's talking about how the ability manipulates time to stop, and not even time travel. Remember, to be immeasurable, you have to be capable of being able to travel everywhere and everywhe in an instant.

• Point 9: Iffy at best, and that's generous. Because it's obvious that he's not referring to being literally transcendent of time, but that he's referring to the fact that you reached across time somehow, be it time machine, time scroll, or otherwise, to make contact with him. No different than the blurb about transcending time at the beginning of his arc.

The ones I don't have an opinion on are 2, 3, and 7, so you're best sticking to that. And if you can get evidence involving the crack of time, then my response 4 and 6 is null until further notice.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

[COLOR=rgba(0,0,0,0.87)]The Time Nest is the 4th dimension itself and the CoT is a [/COLOR]space[COLOR=rgba(0,0,0,0.87)] above it and the multiverse.[/COLOR]

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/MGfYmHiZCv2


https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/28cvJzPDiER

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/XVedgtZbi7v

 

[The_Everlasting]

>The Time Nest is the fourth dimension

No.

Also, most of the stuff with "transcending time" seems to just be referring to the ability to do stuff across space and time.

Also also, the Future Warrior is blatantly bound by linear time since he got time paradoxed by Towa in Xenoverse 2.

 

[Bluetrekking]

@Ever, how about infinite speed? There is enough consistent feats for that.

 

[The_Everlasting]

There really isn't. Most of this stuff is either pulled out of nowhere or taking "transcending time" too literally for reasons I previously stated.

 

[Bluetrekking]

I say so because Towa and Mira existing outside of time. People like Professor Paradox are infinite Speed because of this.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

He's referring to the "moving in instant transmission" moments. And my answer would be no. The two feats are from completely different media, so there's no consistency there, and in both cases, especially with Cooler, it's a blatant outlier.

Edit: ninja'd

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

The games are connected via the first scan

 

[Bluetrekking]

Hell, Dimentio gets it from a possible void feat he did not even perform.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

They're connected to DBH (Presumably; hasn't been accepted yet, but I support it for now), not each other.

 

[Akreious]

DBH encompasses basically all of Dragon Ball Media. They're connected, so "From completely different media" isn't exactly true. While I can't solidify this stance further, Dragon Ball Heroes is one of if not THE most connected form of Dragon Ball Media there is so it isn't out of the question at all.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

@Akr. I know that. DBH may be the tree that holds all the different branches of the media together, but the branches are still separate.

Bad analogy is bad, but you get the point...

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Yes. I did mean it for heroes.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Too bad it isn't connected to the dragon ball spin-Off that has multiple infinite time statements.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Chronoa says "this dimension of time" referring to the time nest

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Too bad it isn't connected to the dragon ball spin-Off that has multiple infinite time statements.

Which spin off. I'm sure I can find the scan

 

[Bluetrekking]

Can't remember but it is a spinoff in Saikyo Jump.

 

[Akreious]

@Cal

Nah I got it, Nice try at the analogy though

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Also. What about the crack of time being a space beyond the multiverse. I showed the scans and didn't get a reply for that

 

[The_Everlasting]

Moving and not naturally inhabiting the Crack of Time is not Infinite.

Cooler fighting in IT is a massive outlier and openings aren't canon.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Too bad it isn't connected to the dragon ball spin-Off that has multiple infinite time statements.

Infinite time statements or infinite timeline statements? There's a distinction. This is borderline derailing by me, so this question will be my last day on that matter, and I'd openly welcome a one word answer.

 

[Bluetrekking]

@Cal timeline

@Ever Demigra has been in the CoT for 75 million years. That is pretty much inhabiting it. And Towa and Mira were stated to exist outside of time normally without the CoT being mentioned.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

>75 million years

Yep that's definitely inhabiting it.