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Darth Vader VS Magneto

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Darth Vader VS Magneto

Random encounter. Darth Vader is seeking to obliterate earth as a result of a test fire, and Magneto is defending his home and confronts Vader in space.

They begin to feel each other out to learn of the other's abilities, and progressively become more bloodlusted as time goes on.

Who wins?
 
vader mind ***** him first. If not, he should be capable of more than resisting magneto's powers with his own teleknisis.
 
Magneto's powers can control 4-B metal my guy, and Vader goes for telekinesis and xqx way mroe than mindhax Also >Magneto >Mindhaxxing >The guy who resists mindhax from charles Xavier
 
Vader's tiering is pretty wrong in this wiki. i made a blog about it, just need to do a revision. he would be> three 4B characters in a weaker 'form'. his prime>> previosuly mentioned 'form'
 
The Force>>>>Magneto's power over metal

Star Wars TK can grab ahold of any matter whatsoever and use it to whatever means the Force user can possibly think of. And I mean anything from one's imagination including subatomic manipulation.

Also, Vader's Force powers should override Magneto's powers should they both try to manipulate the same metal object. The Force binds the universe together and allows life to exist, it's a fabric of the universe that transcends both space and time. I don't recall Magneto's powers over metal deriving from a universal fabric like the Force, so Vader's powers should completely negate Magneto's powers.

And that is just for Vader's TK, let alone his lightsaber and his other Force powers like mind trick, Force choke, Sith magic and alter environment. Plus Vader has precog, so he will know most of Magneto's attacks before they even happen

Vader wins every time
 
Okay, first of all, you can't scale vader to the full force, and saying "anything from imagination" is a massive NLF.

Second of all, Vader only has planet-level feats with the force.

Third of all, Vader opens with CQC or occasionally force choke, while Magneto opens up with thought-based magnetism. And you know what Vader is covered in?

Metal.
 
Dude I'm not scaling Vader to the full Force, I'm saying that his powers come from a plane of existence that is beyond Magneto's magnetism. Say if Magneto grabs ahold of a metal object, his magnetism is confined to the laws of physics and magnetism because nowhere does it say that his powers transcend the laws of the universe. Vader's powers don't have this constraint because his powers come from a fabric of the universe that is above essentially everything.

For example, Vader can Force choke people that are many light years away from him, and the application of his power is instantaneous. His Force powers ignore space and time to choke someone he sees on a hologram, no matter where that person may be in the galaxy, instantly on the spot. Vader doesn't override Magneto's powers purely on sheer power, but because his powers come from a higher plane of existence. Vader has the hax advantage even if Magneto was somehow many times more powerful than him in his ways of magnetism.

Vader may open up with CQC, but he has the knowledge and sense advantage. His precog allows him to see Magneto's attacks or intentions moments ahead of time, so this gives Vader the opportunity to counter-attack before Magneto even acts. And since Vader's powers would override Magneto's powers in most cases, he has far more options: if Magneto launches metal at him, Vader can use precog and TK to throw that metal back at Magneto. If Magneto tries to manipulate Vader's suit, Vader can put a Force barrier around himself and take mental control over the matter of his suit to override Magneto's powers.

Plus Magneto has no answer to deal with Vader's powers. If Vader Force chokes him, Magneto can't do anything about it; he can't use magnetism to block the Force. Vader could also launch non-metal things at Magneto where Magneto would have limited options to defend himself.

Vader has the precog advantge, has far more options and abilities to apply his powers, and his powers command over things from a higher level of existence compared to Magneto's magnetism
 
i just want to say vader doesnt need his suit to live and he has survived without it, im pretty sure he even managed to kill someone while it was disabled.
 
Y'all are missing the point. Vader is wearing something Magneto can control. Magneto crushes him. Or impales him on his own armor. Or tears him in half.

The amount of wank and downplay here is insane

Vader doesn't have the hax advantage because Magneto can kill him with his own armor with a thought.

It doesn't matter what plane of existence Vader draws power from because he's still 5-B. All that flowery shit you're trying to use is a literal non-factor.

Precog acts like the spider-sense. He can't defend against Magneto's own armor.

Vader's force barrier doesn't stop Magneto's forcefield, and his matter manipualtion has never shown anything on Magneto's potency.

You really think Magneto's never fought telekinetics before, huh
 
Magneto thinks and Vader gets crushed like a ball

Magneto's TK is also MUCH stronger, being he literally lifted a mountain like it was Cake
 
Schnee One said:
Magneto thinks and Vader gets crushed like a ball
Magneto's TK is also MUCH stronger, being he literally lifted a mountain like it was Cake
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don't forget stopping a planet-busting bullet
 
scaling exists for a reason. otherwise, magneto also kills sidious, cuz he never did anything above lifting like, a ship, maybe
 
lol man, sidious low key one shots magneto. he scales soooooooooooooooooooooo far above 5B characters that can give magneto trouble, that its sad. so does vader.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
lol man, sidious low key one shots magneto. he scales soooooooooooooooooooooo far above 5B characters that can give magneto trouble, that its sad. so does vader.
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Magneto scales above 170 zt

Vader scales above 80 zt

so
 
A) That's been debunked and rejected over and over

B) Vader is 5-B. Even if what you're saying isn't complete nonsense, it's a non-factor here.
 
I'm not sure if you're joking or you're trying to be serious...

"Vader is wearing something Magneto can control"

Vader can freakin control Magneto himself, regardless of what the magnetic man is wearing. Vader can throw his body around, impale him on metal or non-metal things, mentally reach into his body and crush his organs, snap his neck with a thought, or crush him into a ball. Vader also has the ability to control Magneto's mind and thoughts through mind hax

"Vader doesn't have the hax advantage because Magneto can kill him with his own armor with a thought."

Vader can Force choke him or crush his heart with a thought. Vader can also mentally control the matter of his own armor to prevent it from being destroyed or used against him.

"It doesn't matter what plane of existence Vader draws power from because he's still 5-B. All that flowery shit you're trying to use is a literal non-factor."

Actually its a big factor. Do you not know what hax is? It allows someone to bypass another person's defenses or powers regardless how powerful they are. Magneto can be 10,000 times more powerful than Vader, and the Sith Lord can still reach out with the Force to crush Magneto's brain. Magneto's magnetism CAN'T BLOCK OR OVERRIDE THE FORCE.

For exmaple:

Magneto gathers a planet's worth of metal

Vader, with the help of precog, uses Force choke

Magneto can't defend against the attack

*Magneto suffocates and dies

"Precog acts like the spider-sense. He can't defend against Magneto's own armor."

First of all, this statement makes absolutely no sense and both sentences don't even correlate with one another. Secondly, precog gives Vader a huge advantage by allowing him to act before Magneto has even conducted his attack. You don't realize how many tactical options this gives Vader to pummel Magneto

"Vader's force barrier doesn't stop Magneto's forcefield, and his matter manipualtion has never shown anything on Magneto's potency."

Even if Vader's Force barrier can't completely stop Magneto's magnetism, it can surely diminish its potency/effect. Vader can manipulate many things beyond physical matter, including electricity and magnetism in his environment through the use of the "Kinetite" power. And even if Vader can't gather as much metal as Magneto, he can manipulate things that Magneto can't...he can manipulate ANY matter. That manipulation can control Magneto himself and crush his insides to pulp.

"You really think Magneto's never fought telekinetics before, huh"

Not on the level of Vader's abilities or TK derived from the Force, no.

"and even that's BS since Vader opens with swinging a lightsaber"

Like Vader opens with a lightsaber with every single enemy in every single situation, every single time. You think Vader is a mindless idiot who's only thoughts are "swing my lightsaber all over the place, that will kill them!" ? The guy's pretty smart and he was able to adapt to many tough situations and come out victorious, plus he's got the Force to help him see both the near and distant future. Please take your generalizations and misconceptions somewhere else.
 
Lorenzo.r.2nd said:
if its non factor, then its non factor lol someone said he cant mid **** magneto? why's that?
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Idk. What feats does Magneto have that would help him repel mind tricks and illusions formed from the Force, especially from a powerful Force user like Vader?
 
oh you know

shrugging off mindax from charles xavier

yknow

the guy who stalemated the mind stone


this pretty much proves to me that neither of you have any idea what you're talking about.
 
Can people stop throwing verbal punches please? Thanks.

@Lorenzo Not in the profiles, therefore not applicable. If you want to argue 4-B Vader then wait until a CRT for that goes through. Until then, it's irrelevant here.

Anywho, Vader's mindhax is currently millions. Xavier's is planetary last I checked. Therefore, mindhax is irrelevant. Magneto thinks and crushes him into a ball.
 
is it? painful? u cant handle it? not enough brain power? u wanna take a nap? recover from this trauma? go right ahead. ah, if he can really withstand shit like that from xavier, then it is what it is. u guys say "he insta squishes vader" but cant vader do the same by squishing his heart?
 
Guys, I literally just said stop.

Heart squish isn't gonna be Vader's first move.

Magneto's first thought will be: "He's wearing metal. Squish."

Vader's first thought will be: "Better mind hax. Wait, that's not working, time to-" squish
 
it says bloodlust, and his mission is to destroy the planet, and magneto is in his way. insta killing him is with a choke or a heard squish is 100% a pissed-off vader move lmaooooooooo
 
"They begin to feel each other out to learn of the other's abilities, and progressively become more bloodlusted as time goes on."

did you even read the op
 
Woah, dude. If it's that serious then take a break. We won't judge. Take care of yourself. Your well being is more important.
 
.....Dude this is easily one of the worst places to say let alone cope with something like that

Take a break immediately.
 
About the OP, what does it mean to "feel each other out"? They're not sayians. Neither has any information analysis that would make such a thing possible.

Regardless, if both a have prior knowledge than incon. They both die instantly.
 
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