Daredevil Revision

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Well, the Low 7-C end is for high end destruction. I'm far more comfortable with the 8-A end as calculated by Aiden. It's more consistent, too.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes, and given that Spider-Man supporting a skyscraper was calculated at High 8-C, I would be perfectly fine with something similar for Cap and characters that scale from him. It is just that 8-A seems considerably too high in relation to the thousands of Marvel comics that I have read.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I'm totally fine with them being 8-A. It's just that I believe more justification than Deadpool's Durability is required. Could someone calc the feats Dark mentioned? Like the skyscraper feat?

We definitely need more Calcs, yes. We don't just use Deadpool's either.

We currently have.

• Punisher being consistently Small Building level
• Captain America's 8-C durability feat
• Cap's 8-B to 8-A durability feat
• Black Panther's 8-C durability feat
• Wolverin's 8-C and 8-A durability feats
• Deadpool's feat
• Gambit one-shotting Sentinels and failing to even scratch Cap

 

[TeenAngel101]

Well, the Low 7-C end is for high end destruction. I'm far more comfortable with the 8-A end as calculated by Aiden. It's more consistent, too.

How many tons was it? I'm just saying because Spiderman is immensely superior to him.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

There's a difference in the feats, though.

Spider-Man caught a calling skyscraper which generated Large Building level+ Kinetic Energy. Cap supported the entire thing from collapsing in general, which is more impressive.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Oh, Dazzler has a City Block level feat and she is pretty weak as far as X-Men goes.

 

[Antvasima]

LordXcano considered Aiden's calculation for destroying a skyscraper to likely be inaccurate, given that it takes high level nuclear explosions to reach that high.

 

[TeenAngel101]

It's not just Marvel either. The DC street levels have been calced at High 8-C and Mach 500. They should be fixed too.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, we seem to need a calculation of Cap preventing the skyscraper from collapsing.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

LordXcano considered Aiden's calculation for destroying a skyscraper to likely be inaccurate, given that it takes high level nuclear explosions to reach that high.

You don't need to destroy a whole skyscrapper in real life to destroy it. Just affecing part of the building is enough to make it collapse by a chain reaction.

Aiden's calculation is for destroying the whole thing.

 

[Js250476]

I agree comic peak humans are clearly not normal humans

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It's not just Marvel either. The DC street levels have been calced at High 8-C and Mach 500. They should be fixed too.

We seriously need someone to evaluate Katana and Cassandra Cain's feats.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I am not good enough with calculations nowadays to be able to properly evaluate it, but the results seemed suspiciously high.

 

[Antvasima]

I recently asked for an evaluation of the Batman and Katana feats, but have received no response yet.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Aidens calc was fine. "seemed suspiciously high" is not a valid argument unless you have any actual mathematical evidence against it.

 

[TeenAngel101]

This is the feat in question, is it not?

 

[Antvasima]

@Darkanine

True enough.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I also found that the Living Laser releases 8-B+ energies just by flying.

 

[Antvasima]

If there is no preexisting calculation for the Cap feat, would you be willing to calculate it Darkanine?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

@Teen

That's like, one of the four times Cap has survived a building falling on him.

 

[TeenAngel101]

But....

Which ****** one are they talking about?

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, it seems like I have been outvoted on this topic, but the Marvel "street tier" profiles nevertheless need to be cleaned up so they turn far more coherent.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Yes, I agree. We need to fix stuff.

 

[Antvasima]

Yes. After it is done, it would also be useful if you write a Marvel scaling instructions page.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I am willing to do it.

I also want to write a Blog explaining DC Comics Cosmology which should be fun.

Also:

https://www.narutoforums.org/xfa-blog-entry/amazing-spider-man-feats-comics-120-238.22422/ 8-A+ durability for Octopus' arms.

 

[Huesito88]

Will King Pin stay the same?

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Should we close this thread while you are preparing a revision?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Will King Pin stay the same?

Kingpin is 9-A. He is a major challenge for Daredevil but scaling him to Spider-Man is too much.

 

[Js250476]

Would only Spider Man characters scale to Octopus's feat?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://plus.google.com/+RyandbeastCarnage/posts/GGVx9FUoA7z

Found this. Apparently Spider-Man survived blasts from Electro after he absorbed all electricity in New York (Need to see the whole issue).

That's around 8-A or so.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Also found a feat of Wolverine and Venom surviving a Small Town level nuke. Wolverine due to regen but might be legit scaling for Venom.

 

[Js250476]

I mean not many scale to Venom right? Only top tier Street levelers do iirc

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

No, just mentioning it.

 

[Js250476]

Alright fair enough

 

[TeenAngel101]

It does better justify their rating though.

 

[Js250476]

Although since were on the subject doesn't Hawkeye have a Mach 5000 feat could that be used for scaling or is it considered an outlier?

 

[TeenAngel101]

Yeah, it was him and Black Panther dodging a girder thrown by Hulk, IIRC

 

[Js250476]

Right was wondering why it wasn't used here unless if it's an outlier or something?

 

[TeenAngel101]

I think it was on Naruto Forums. So the link likely won't work, unless it was saved to the Wayback Machine.

 

[Js250476]

Oh I understand now