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Dante dodging Mundus would still be Immesurable no? Since Dante is faster than said TeleportationNot only is teleporting not immeasurable speed
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Dante dodging Mundus would still be Immesurable no? Since Dante is faster than said TeleportationNot only is teleporting not immeasurable speed
Teleportation is Infinite speed, if he was faster he'd be higher in that speed tierDante dodging Mundus would still be Immesurable no? Since Dante is faster than said Teleportation
I thought Mundus wasn't a teleportation related feat, but supposedly dodging an "omnipresent" attackDante dodging Mundus would still be Immesurable no? Since Dante is faster than said Teleportation
Mundus' feat isn't immeasurable speed. It's infinite based on the fact he's omnipresent throughout an infinite void, yet Dante was able to dodge him anyways.Dante dodging Mundus would still be Immesurable no? Since Dante is faster than said Teleportation
It's okay to trade immeasurable speed for infinite speed, since Dante can easily dodge attacks from MundusMundus' feat isn't immeasurable speed. It's infinite based on the fact he's omnipresent throughout an infinite void, yet Dante was able to dodge him anyways.
I'll add, I am skeptical of that reasoning. Absent more specific information, I wouldn't assume the attacks are anything more than physical manifestations within the realm that are being dodged, rather than some bizarre "dodging" of the realm itself. However, that can be hashed out in a separate thread.Mundus' feat isn't immeasurable speed. It's infinite based on the fact he's omnipresent throughout an infinite void, yet Dante was able to dodge him anyways.
What?This isn't a wordsalad. Japanese language doesn't have the concept of teleportation. Cuz that is English. We call it instantaneous movement(s). Toriyama's goku is a good example. Goku is teleporting but the ability is named instantaneous movement, as I explained.
Well, the scan that OP showed us explains the game mechanic. The videogames can't implement the immesurable speed if we use common sense. Teleportation is a bare minimum way of describing it.
They call it differently. To simplify it, the game mechanic says teleportation. The lore says instantaneous movements that transcends time and distance.
There is another scan about Argosax which literally spells out "teleport" phonetically with katakana.This isn't a wordsalad. Japanese language doesn't have the concept of teleportation. Cuz that is English. We call it instantaneous movement(s). Toriyama's goku is a good example. Goku is teleporting but the ability is named instantaneous movement, as I explained.
Well, the scan that OP showed us explains the game mechanic. The videogames can't implement the immesurable speed if we use common sense. Teleportation is a bare minimum way of describing it.
They call it differently. To simplify it, the game mechanic says teleportation. The lore says instantaneous movements that transcends time and distance.
Is there a clip of that?Mundus' feat isn't immeasurable speed. It's infinite based on the fact he's omnipresent throughout an infinite void, yet Dante was able to dodge him anyways.
It's a novel.Is there a clip of that?
So are you claiming Goku has Immeasurable speed?This isn't a wordsalad. Japanese language doesn't have the concept of teleportation. Cuz that is English. We call it instantaneous movement(s). Toriyama's goku is a good example. Goku is teleporting but the ability is named instantaneous movement, as I explained.
Well, the scan that OP showed us explains the game mechanic. The videogames can't implement the immesurable speed if we use common sense. Teleportation is a bare minimum way of describing it.
They call it differently. To simplify it, the game mechanic says teleportation. The lore says instantaneous movements that transcends time and distance.
This isn't a wordsalad. Japanese language doesn't have the concept of teleportation. Cuz that is English. We call it instantaneous movement(s). Toriyama's goku is a good example. Goku is teleporting but the ability is named instantaneous movement, as I explained.
And... you tell me how Goku's "instantaneous movement" technique works exactly. The fact that his technique is literally teleportation yet called "instantaneous moment" pretty much proved the opposite you're trying to claim.This isn't a wordsalad. Japanese language doesn't have the concept of teleportation. Cuz that is English. We call it instantaneous movement(s). Toriyama's goku is a good example. Goku is teleporting but the ability is named instantaneous movement, as I explained.
Well, the scan that OP showed us explains the game mechanic. The videogames can't implement the immesurable speed if we use common sense. Teleportation is a bare minimum way of describing it.
They call it differently. To simplify it, the game mechanic says teleportation. The lore says instantaneous movements that transcends time and distance.
To further reinforce this. According to a Japanese dictionary, they do have a specific phrase for teleportation as well
So you acknowledge that they use these words differently. One is teleportation. And the other is instantaneous movement. They created some rooms for interpretations either way. I intepret it he has teleportation ability and immesurable speed. But you guys are trying to make all his movements as teleportation.There is another scan about Argosax which literally spells out "teleport" phonetically with katakana.
Goku's instantaneous movement is a kind of teleportation of course. It depends on the context. DMC is a different case. Instantaneous movement that trancends time and distance, would be immeasurable. Instantaneous movement, swift movement or teleportation, name aside why wouldn't be? Given the meaning of kanji, instantaneous movement sounds right to me honestly. Its a combination of 瞬間/instantaneous and 移動/movement.And... you tell me how Goku's "instantaneous movement" technique works exactly. The fact that his technique is literally teleportation yet called "instantaneous moment" pretty much proved the opposite you're trying to claim.
Thanks.
Also backed up by a wiki article on the matter.
瞬間移動 - Wiktionary, the free dictionary
en.m.wiktionary.org
So you acknowledge that they use these words differently. One is teleport. And the other is instantaneous movement. They created some rooms for interpretations either way. I intepret it he has teleportation ability and immesurable speed. But you guys are trying to make all his movements as teleportation.
Goku's instantaneous movement is a kind of teleportation of course. It depends on the context. DMC is a different case. Instantaneous movement that trancends time and distance, would be immesuable. Instantaneous movement, swift movement or teleportation, name aside why wouldn't be? Given the meaning of kanji, instantaneous movement sounds right to me honestly. Its a combination of 瞬間/instantaneous and 移動/movement.
Thanks.
Etymology
From 瞬間 (shunkan, “instant”) + 移動 (idō, “moving”).
this is silly.So you acknowledge that they use these words differently. One is teleport. And the other is instantaneous movement. They created some rooms for interpretations either way. I intepret it he has teleportation ability and immesurable speed. But you guys are trying to make all his movements as teleportation.
it's a yojijukugo. 4 characters that form one word. the word means teleportation.Goku's instantaneous movement is a kind of teleportation of course. It depends on the context. DMC is a different case. Instantaneous movement that trancends time and distance, would be immeasurable. Instantaneous movement, swift movement or teleportation, name aside why wouldn't be? Given the meaning of kanji, instantaneous movement sounds right to me honestly. Its a combination of 瞬間/instantaneous and 移動/movement.
it's as if........ words can have different meanings............ than their constituent parts.................. absolutely bonkers concept....................................................
So your theory is that Argosax can teleport and has immeasurable speed? Not that the "instant movement" ability refers to teleportation, which we can confirm with the other scan that phonetically calls it "teleporting?"So you acknowledge that they use these words differently. One is teleportation. And the other is instantaneous movement. They created some rooms for interpretations either way. I intepret it he has teleportation ability and immesurable speed. But you guys are trying to make all his movements as teleportation.
^ The change of a single character can heavily change a meaning of a word. You can’t link the etymology of a word the same way like you can in English.Hi! Translation Helper for the Japanese language here.
That word means "teleportation", not "instantaneous movement". The etymology of a word is different from the meaning of a word; the etymology explains the link between a word and other pre-existing words, but does not accurately describe what it means nowadays.
Tbf, the dbs manga has shown it is possible to outspeed it, so it may very well be some form of extremely fast movement.And... you tell me how Goku's "instantaneous movement" technique works exactly. The fact that his technique is literally teleportation yet called "instantaneous moment" pretty much proved the opposite you're trying to claim.
In that case, is a CRT really needed then? If it’s an unauthorized change, it’s essentially vandalism and should be revertedThere’s nothing more to it, but even then, it’s all pointless to argue here cuz it seems the original thread about immeasurable speed wasn’t actually accepted and it just got snuck in.
No it's reacting to teleportation. The in-game description literally says "uses raw demonic power to do little space-time jumps. It'll warp right next to you". And just, like, look at the cutscene you linked."Reacts to Fury, who evolved to move so fast that they jump through space and time by using Demonic energy to amp their speed"
Fury's in-game description and how he moves.
this is immeasurable
dude i never said its immeasurableNo it's reacting to teleportation. The in-game description literally says "uses raw demonic power to do little space-time jumps. It'll warp right next to you". And just, like, look at the cutscene you linked.
That's teleportation!
dude i never said its immeasurable
lol"Reacts to Fury, who evolved to move so fast that they jump through space and time by using Demonic energy to amp their speed"
Fury's in-game description and how he moves.
this is immeasurable
"It wants to go faster. Wants to kill faster. All it can think of it speed"
If you want to win a race, teleporting to just before the finishing line is a pretty good strategy."It wants to go faster. Wants to kill faster. All it can think of it speed"
that is not teleportation it was through speed
"you get a freak so fast it ain't even moving under its own power no more"If you want to win a race, teleporting to just before the finishing line is a pretty good strategy.
Fiction calling a character who can teleport "fast" doesn't mean that they're actually physically moving that distance."you get a freak so fast it ain't even moving under its own power no more"
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Earlier this was pointed out, I think it's the best straight up featSo, what do we change the speed to, if this teleportation ability doesn't cut it?
I had pointed this out prior to this thread but someone replied with "this is textbook Immeasurable speed" however I still hold the same opinion as long as there isn't any other good arguments from the supporters. I agree with the thread and here's a replacement to the speed rating:
Dante and Mundus Flying (Plan B)
vsbattles.fandom.com
Okay. That seems fine for now.Earlier this was pointed out, I think it's the best straight up feat
I would like to defend this argument in a few minutes if you allow me to."you get a freak so fast it ain't even moving under its own power no more"
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