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Could also be at least Small Building, possibly Multi City Block, at most Large Town. Honestly this is what I would feel comfortable with for Mondo as it mentions all ends at least. What do you think Fanta?
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That could work, I suppose.Could also be at least Small Building, possibly Multi City Block, at most Large Town. Honestly this is what I would feel comfortable with for Mondo as it mentions all ends at least. What do you think Fanta?
I just think the uncertainty of the way she meant it leaves too much wiggle room but honestly yeah if someone else agrees with you for him being Multi City block at most Large Town then I’d be on board as well.Also, remember, we aren't scaling Mondo to Mukuro. We are essentially scaling Mondo to Big Bang Monokuma and Genocide Jill, by considering the fact that Mukuro considers him an issue on the same level as Sakura (to an unknown degree). Which is way more than what she considered Peko, who as you said, was complently beaten and toyed with.
That could work, I suppose.
Could make it likely Multi City block instead honestly. Works better imo nowAlso, remember, we aren't scaling Mondo to Mukuro. We are essentially scaling Mondo to Big Bang Monokuma and Genocide Jill, by considering the fact that Mukuro considers him an issue on the same level as Sakura (to an unknown degree). Which is way more than what she considered Peko, who as you said, was complently beaten and toyed with.
That could work, I suppose.
This also is pretty dumb as Sakura was stated to match her if Mukuro enters in that mode too.Nobody but BTM!Mukuro and Izuru/Hajime should scale to this... And as for why Izuru/Hajime (note: Izuru & Fused Hajime are the same person. Literally.) scales to this, well... The both of them are extremely above Mukuro, can one-shot her with no effort, and is repeatedly stated by the narrative and the creators of Danganronpa as the god tier of the series and above every single person in the series.
Yeah the cloud feat rn is up in the air until the revisión for general cloud feats is done. The feat though still works as the body tanked the energy without being damaged at all and even the subsequent crashing down. Big Bang Monokuma does also have that Large Town feat still that has been accepted that backs this up for future stuff. Even still BTM Mukuro would have that relativistic reactions then and should scale above Sakura Genocide Jack in this mode.Absolutely disagree with Big Bang Monokuma's Cloud feat, as that was just him detonating, and was not an actual attack.
Except that almost none of his feats are remotely close to that, but that's just a result of him exploding after being overloaded with damage, nothing says that its normal stats scale, nor that someone tanked it.
Mukuro's feat was never downgraded because it was an outlier, it was because the text was not the same as the calc used
Context was more about Mukuro feeling the air cold around her, increasing her reactions, not ******* feeling everything as frozen lol.
I'll work on the new tiering in a bit.I do see what you mean about Sakura scaling to BTM Mukuro though. It seems it would only be Sakura though as it does mention she is above Syo. So should Sakura also have at least Large Town?
It was literally just its head being launched in the air after the detonating, it didn't tank it at all. It's not something scalable to the normal stats as that's only after it's self destruction, and nothing says he's strong as that self destruction normally.The feat though still works as the body tanked the energy without being damaged at all and even the subsequent crashing down
I do see what you mean about Sakura scaling to BTM Mukuro though. It seems it would only be Sakura though as it does mention she is above Syo. So should Sakura also have at least Large Town?
The head still tanked the energy for splitting the clouds and would have been damaged if it couldn’t take it. That energy happened and is very apparent as the clouds did split. But yup like I said I agree with you, Sakura would scale and Genocide wouldn’t to BTM !It was literally just its head being launched in the air after the detonating, it didn't tank it at all. It's not something scalable to the normal stats as that's only after it's self destruction, and nothing says he's strong as that self destruction normally.
Syo does not scale to BTM Mukuro but Sakura 100% does
Not really, because the head was merely pushed from the detonating, and KE feats don't apply the durability to what moved the objects, but just the objects themselves. Also because it has just pushed the air, meaning that it didn't absorb all the energy as it took only said energy on a small area. With this logic of yours OPM verse Jupiter is Tier 4 because the core tanked Saitama sneeze.The head still tanked the energy for splitting the clouds and would have been damaged if it couldn’t take it. That energy happened and is very apparent as the clouds did split. But yup like I said I agree with you, Sakura would scale and Genocide wouldn’t to BTM !
The feat itself has also been reviewed by two different CGMs with the context given so it should really be fine. Well at least fine to rescale for later after the cloud feats are updated.
I could change the AP upgrade to 8-A+ upgrade or smth.
Also, agreed. Then again, even if you disagree with it, there is the cloud feat to consider. Granted, with how the cloud revisions are going IMO, I think it would probably end up in the 7-C range (and not even in the 7-C+ range), but only the future can tell us. Just have to wait and see.Is a bit sad because the gap between High 7-C and the Scepter feat is 1.48, but having the God tiers at the absolute peak of 7-C+ is funny still lol.
I have never said the feat isn't valid, just that it won't scale to physicals.Then again, even if you disagree with it, there is the cloud feat to consider. Granted, with how the cloud revisions are going IMO, I think it would probably end up in the 7-C range (and not even in the 7-C+ range), but only the future can tell us. Just have to wait and see.
Meh, 9-A was a likely only because "lol can be an outlier", but that's nice anyway.I knew I was forgetting something important. Thanks for reminding me, Strym! ... Also, btw, I intent to remove 9-B rating from pretty much everyone since we pretty much got enough 9-A calcs to make everybody solidly 9-A.
after some revisions and talking they are actually only town+ now because of an incorrect mass. right now though they are still at 2.8341063e+14 J for the high tiersHow far into High 7-C are they?
yeah this lifting strength is something that i had seen brought up before. definitely agree since akane had trouble lifting the pillarAsked here about LS now. It should be easier once the calcs are completed.
I was asking directly there as I legit lack time rn to calc those, but if someone here like Rusty can, I'd be grateful.Kek. In other news, I have been calcing the feats that you requested, Strym. The giant rock that the Gorila Monobeast lifted is around 3 tons. The minimum weight of a trailer is around 680 kg (class 1) and the highest is 1360 kg (near baseline Class 5 LS), if we assume them to be shipping containers instead, it still nets a result of near baseline Class 5 LS. The monokuma unit that ripped opened the door to the place that imprisoned Komaru probably just nets near nothing in LS (likely just Superhuman), so didn't attempt to do that.