Danganronpa Downgrades

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine to apply then. Thank you both for helping out.

 

[Antvasima]

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[QuasiYuri]

Just edited all of the low tiers and here's some issues I found:

Both Yasuhiro and Seiko are 10-B. Shouldn't they just scale to the others low tiers?

Tf is this shit.

Didn't read Killer Killer but the serial killers profiles feels really empty for most of them, like even from justifications and all.

Also just a precision: I let Junko's durability at 9-B since surviving the Ultimate Punishment is at least that tier.

 

[Armorchompy]

Didn't Gundham specifically need to flip a switch on 'maru's back to beat him?

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out YuriAkuto.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Yup,

Didn't Gundham specifically need to flip a switch on 'maru's back to beat him?

Yup, that's why I think scaling him is dumb.

 

[Zencha9]

Didn't Gundham specifically need to flip a switch on 'maru's back to beat him?

i think gundam did fight him he got so pissed when hajime said that he won against nekomaru via dirty tactics
anyways it's dumb to scale NWP stuff to real life so it should get yeeted

 

[Armorchompy]

Well, him and his Devas definitely scale in speed, and it was considered a fair fight by both of them, but that doesn't mean Gundham's AP scales.

 

[Zencha9]

if it was considered a fair fight then there's no reason for gundam to not scale in the NWP

 

[Armorchompy]

It was a fair fight because both of them had a shot at winning, but Gundham's shot at winning was specifically hitting that switch, which is how he won.

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that he should not scale then.

 

[PsychicCipher-2]

Not part of the downgrades, but I was thinking that Mukuro should have two keys: Base and Battle Trance Mode. The Battle Trance explicitly gives her a boost.

In her base, she was struggling against Sakura, but in her Trance, she could fight on par with 100 Monokumas, 1 of which gave Sakura trouble.

So, her base would be around 8-C, and her Trance be around 8-C, possibly High 8-C. Of course, this does not count the downgrades you all are discussing right now.

 

[Antvasima]

So what is left to do here in summary?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Top tier needs to be changed to 8-C.

Issues I found need to be discussed.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine.

 

[PsychicCipher-2]

Shall I write about the extra Mukuro key change in another thread?

 

[Oleggator]

So, her base would be around 8-C, and her Trance be around 8-C, possibly High 8-C. Of course, this does not count the downgrades you all are discussing right now.

@CYCLOHEXANE-2 I think mukuro change would be logical, but except for "possibly high 8C" at least 8C in her trance since there's no exact eviedence about high 8C ronpa, but at the same time we understand that 8C isn't a limit. For that "at least" word would be enough.

 

[Antvasima]

Just edited all of the low tiers and here's some issues I found:

Both Yasuhiro and Seiko are 10-B. Shouldn't they just scale to the others low tiers?

Tf is this shit.

Didn't read Killer Killer but the serial killers profiles feels really empty for most of them, like even from justifications and all.

Also just a precision: I let Junko's durability at 9-B since surviving the Ultimate Punishment is at least that tier.

So do the rest of you have any input regarding this?

 

[Armorchompy]

Just edited all of the low tiers and here's some issues I found:

Both Yasuhiro and Seiko are 10-B. Shouldn't they just scale to the others low tiers?

Tf is this shit.

I agree with these

Also just a precision: I let Junko's durability at 9-B since surviving the Ultimate Punishment is at least that tier.

Makes enough sense

 

[PsychicCipher-2]

Wait, there is some changes for Mukuro. The Battle Trance only enhances speed. However, what makes Mukuro's fight with Sakura and the 100 Monokumas different is that Mukuro is armed in the second fight. Mukuro also said she could defeat Sakura if she had a gun with her. So, 8-C, higher with weapons

 

[Armorchompy]

I'm not familiar with Mukuro past what she does in DR1 (aka, nothing), is there a way to know she wasn't in a battle trance? After all, she's the Ultimate Soldier, it makes sense that she'd be better with firearms than in bare-handed combat.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

What are the summarised conclusions so far here?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Shouldn't Kazuichi be 8-C+ with prep via creating Giant Monokuma?

 

[Oleggator]

Probably, if he built giant monokuma. But just 8C with prep.

 

[QuasiYuri]

Fine by me.

 

[Antvasima]

What are the summarised conclusions so far here?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

@YuriAkuto

What should we do here?

 

[QuasiYuri]

I'm not very knowledgeable on Danganronpa IF so I can't say anything about Mukuro thingy.

Otherwise Kazuichi being 8-C with prep or the profiles which don't scale to Chiaki yet being fixed both seems uncontroversial.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That is probably fine to apply then.

 

[Psychomaster35]

So has anybody thought of calculating Nekomaru’s toilet dump crater feat?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Calcing it gives a 8-A outlier according to someone I asked.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

bump

 

[Antvasima]

Has somebody applied everything that has been accepted here yet?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Not yet. Will do it in the following days.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thanks.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Makoto's fall was calced

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you. It needs to be evaluated though.