Damus Adapin vs. Valev

[Moritzva]

So, is there anything left to note here? Since as established, Damus kinda just doesn't have the potency to kill Valev before his Regenerationn gets overwhelmed and his soul is taken.

 

[Komodo25M]

Nope.

 

[ThePerpetual]

(All of his transformations being Tier Jumps, and this being a Wiki's Strongest Thread that disallows Tier Jumps, kinda hurts a lot I would think.)

Does Damus have viable win conditions here, or no? It at least seems he does, I'm more making sure I'm up to speed on this.

 

[Smashtwig]

I think with RPLevel it IS doable, just really hard with the Time Stops and Speed Amps

 

[Moritzva]

By VSBW standards, no, as he still regens and has ways to damage Valev. It just seems a bit unfair... I'll let Komodo note if he has any wincons.

@Smash

What is RPLevel?

Also, is that a vote, Smashtwig?

 

[Komodo25M]

Valev

 

[Moritzva]

Yea, but do you think it's fair enough to add?

 

[Komodo25M]

At this point, YES.

 

[Moritzva]

Well, alright then. One more vote.

 

[Smashtwig]

That wasn't a vote for Valev. I still thinking that inconclusive is possible. RPLevel refers to Reactive Power Level. Trickster Defense is quite the unique defensive tactic... I'm gonna keep my vote for Incon while I think over this a bit more while balancing my real life

 

[Moritzva]

That wasn't a vote for Valev. I still thinking that inconclusive is possible. RPLevel refers to Reactive Power Level. Trickster Defense is quite the unique defensive tactic... I'm gonna keep my vote for Incon while I think over this a bit more while balancing my real life

That doesn't actually help Damus much- no matter how much he adapts, the best he can reach is equal to Valev, due to them both being unable to go into 6-A. Trickster's Defense is useful, but is delaying the inevitable-

Valev can kill via soul shenanigans, but does Damus have anything to win more often than not? And it seems, no.

 

[Smashtwig]

I'm gonna wait for Damus changes before making a final decision

 

[Moritzva]

The guy who made Damus and is the one doing the changes voted, tho. I imagine if he had a stirring, battle-warping change coming, he'd say so.

Speaking of which, if there is a large change coming, do say so.

 

[Komodo25M]

I'm gonna wait for Damus changes before making a final decision

Then you're gonna wait for quite a while, because I need to get his story checked.

 

[Komodo25M]

I just remembered Damus' has a High frequency blade, meaning that it can negate Valev's durability.

 

[Moritzva]

I just remembered Damus' has a High frequency blade, meaning that it can negate Valev's durability.

Valev or his clones get hit 1-2 times, then they destroy it.

 

[Komodo25M]

Actually, only Kryosis(who's 5-C) has broken it, and he said it took most of his strength to do so

 

[Moritzva]

Well, that does make it more fair, but I don't think it's enough. Valev can shrug off multiple lethal wounds with death prevention + regen, and only needs to put down Damus once.

 

[Komodo25M]

Well, there's also his moonslicer sword, which has shown to create small moons before

 

[Smashtwig]

Valev or his clones get hit 1-2 times, then they destroy it.

Wait what does this mean?

 

[Moritzva]

Well, there's also his moonslicer sword, which has shown to create small moons before

Sounds like a higher tier, so it won't be here.

 

[Komodo25M]

Tru.

 

[Akreious]

Is Valev gonna be the next Linx?

 

[Moritzva]

Is Valev gonna be the next Linx?

>strongest low 2-C

>piss-off wall of resistances

>anime protagonist good guys

possibly?

 

[Moritzva]

Wait what does this mean?

They'd use AP to destroy it.

But it has Tier 5 dura so all they can do is EE, disarm (difficult, since their lifting is baseline K), or bfr it.

 

[Smashtwig]

Hm, EE may not work if it's magic based (this dude and Trav gon be friends with the HF s0rd goin on). BFRing may work, though idk how it works, is it a portal thing or is it just a ya yeet warp?

 

[Moritzva]

Portal.

Also, Consortium Flames would combust with magic and likely still damage the blade- enough attacks will render it unusable. After all, a sword is smaller than a human, and all you need to do is burn through a few inches to rend it in half.

 

[Moritzva]

Well, 2-0, waiting on one.

 

[Smashtwig]

Oh, so Cons. Flames actual do deal damage, interesting, I'm guessing it burns about as hot as Valev's normal flames

 

[Moritzva]

Oh, so Cons. Flames actual do deal damage, interesting, I'm guessing it burns about as hot as Valev's normal flames

Well, they don't burn, per se, but instead just do magical blunt damage. It's a lesser used effect, but occasionally Consortium Travelers will beat eachother over the head with it when trying to hide their true abilities.

So it EEs and can do blunt damage, but mostly EEs.

 

[Smashtwig]

If it does blunt damage, then it would definitely take a bit to destroy dat s0rd. Still going to be waiting on changes

 

[Moritzva]

Then you're gonna wait for quite a while, because I need to get his story checked.

@Smashtwig

I don't think it's too important, though. Worst comes to worst, we can redo it later. Should I do an overview of all of the points?

 

[Moritzva]

One more vote I guess

 

[GreyFang82]

Yeah, if things change drastically we can redo this battle, no biggie.

Valev FRA.

 

[Moritzva]

If Magno isn't voting for anyone, I suppose this is fine to add.

 

[Moritzva]

I'll add this now. Komodo, do you want to add it to Damus yourself?

Side note: Just saw OP didn't equalize speed. Given this entire debate sorta saw it as if speed was equalized, I'll add it under those pretenses; it does not change much, anyways.

 

[Komodo25M]

I'm good. Don't know how to do that anyways.

 

[Smashtwig]

Just do what everyone else does bro, edit the bottom of the character's page

 

[Komodo25M]

Ok

 

[Komodo25M]

I'll add this now. Komodo, do you want to add it to Damus yourself?

Side note: Just saw OP didn't equalize speed. Given this entire debate sorta saw it as if speed was equalized, I'll add it under those pretenses; it does not change much, anyways.

Can you do the same for Zeus(LOT)?