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Because it's only Tier 8 because it affected that entire area. The fact the attack is a large AoE means the energy is distributed automatically.
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Cyberpunk Discussion Thread
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Me realizing I can pit Cyberpunk characters against WWE characters (WWE guys likely get shit on, I'm just being a goon):
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So should I make the new calc before making the downgrade thread?
Or does someone else wanna suggest a different method?
Or does someone else wanna suggest a different method?
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I think maybe a calc, then making a thread about both calcs and which one should be used. Then a downgrade CRT seems like the optimal course.
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It's just updating a calc with a newer method
The math for the first is already accepted so we just need to get the new version accepted
Which so happens to coincide with downgrading there values so it kills two birds with 1 stone
We already have 1 admin who agree with my line of thinking so now I just need the math approved (Dale I know your watching this thread)
With that in mind I'll just transcribe what I've done over to a blog
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Nope imma fix part of this for you here, now this is very rough but its better than doing it like this
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Wouldn't the method I suggested here work as an end as well? It is a gravitational force pulling them down after all.
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I'm not sure I follow, could you explain your method further?
Also I'm waiting on Dale's revision
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8 Feet or 2.4384m
The average man is 1.71m tall and weighs 62kg
2.4384/1.71 = 1.42596491228m
1.42596491228^3 = 2.89952273116x increase
2.89952273116 * 62kg = 179.770409332kg
the density of a human is 985 kg/m^3 so we'll divide by that and sub it out for steel density
Steel density: 7750kg/m3
179.770409332/985 = 0.18250802977m^3
0.18250802977m^3 * 7750kg/m3 = 1414.43723072kg
Now you have a more accurate weight for your calculation
The average man is 1.71m tall and weighs 62kg
2.4384/1.71 = 1.42596491228m
1.42596491228^3 = 2.89952273116x increase
2.89952273116 * 62kg = 179.770409332kg
the density of a human is 985 kg/m^3 so we'll divide by that and sub it out for steel density
Steel density: 7750kg/m3
179.770409332/985 = 0.18250802977m^3
0.18250802977m^3 * 7750kg/m3 = 1414.43723072kg
Now you have a more accurate weight for your calculation
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Use my Class G calculation to get a Newton per meter value (or kgf/m^2) first. I'll do that for you.
266975242040/1247.54786 = 214000000 n/m^2
Multiply that value by the surface area of Adam.
214000000*2.96 = 633440000 Newtons/9.80665 = 64592903.7949 Kgf
Now use that as his weight since that's how much he'd weigh under the effects of that gravity and apply PE using half his height as a point of reference.
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Change your value to use this as the surface area since getting the weight I got in the same calculator would make the new surface area this
8.43m^2
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Nice that you did that but using that with the BSA calculator will just result in it assuming Adam is extremely, EXTREMELY morbidly obese and arbitrarily increase the BSA
I'd be open if we could find a way to calculate roughly how many times the gravity increases smashers weight but until then the bodyweight average seems the best way to go
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Thats the same as what I got as well as the method I used
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Sure ig but atp I'd say its better to just keep what we originally had and have him keep likely 8-B since that calculator is a super low end as well
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Thread is up
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Cyberpunk High Tiers get Smashed
After going through and looking at the source of the calcs that currently give us the 8-B+ and Class G values for the verse I found that they were applying the full value found instead of factoring in the area that affected Adam Smasher I talked about this in the discussion thread a little but...
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Has it already been added into account that V now have access to Erebus and/or Canto? The Blackwall hack as far as we know from Alt is capable of eradicating the best Netrunners in the verse (VDB and Netwatch), it is also capable of killing the NUSA assault squad directly reporting to the President.
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Not yet
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So the 2.1 update is giving Smasher a Sandevistan. So that's neat.
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Dear lord we are ******
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It also gives him an Edgerunners looking after image effect along with new moves.
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yeah I know just watched
he is gonna kick our shit in now
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Get ready for him to stomp most High 8-C's with his crazy high LS and Speed Blitz level amp
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he about to fight a space marine chapter and win
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Shame that Primarchs are getting upgraded to 8-B
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@Sir_sun_man @Dalesean027 Not my footage, but this is probably like, the best example of the Sandevistan in effect that I've seen so far.
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Also, semi-related, I finally found out where that Wiki description for the Apogee comes from. Its the files themselves
So I think we can do a 20x Sandevistan
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Just re-download the game back this morning, that looks sick and can probably be used as well for matching the speed of others sandevistan same as his fight with david
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So I've finished the V profile update. Do you think everything looks good?
I also clipped a scene with V parrying Smasher that I included for the speed section.
If you're good with that, then imo all we need to do is apply the LS update to Smasher and David and then make a CRT on if we go with MHS or MHS+ speed.
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To update my previous post for anyone new:
Alright so here's all the showings (Feat - Person - Rating - Method - Calc Acceptance)
To my memory we all agreed the Rel stuff wasn't useable.
At the moment the highest accepted ends are V's Mach 145 end and David's Mach 480 end.
At the moment the MHS end is the only accepted one. However, we have to decide if we're basing the scaling on V or David and if the David/Smasher gung calc gets accepted we'll have to discuss on if we're making them MHS+ or not.
Alright so here's all the showings (Feat - Person - Rating - Method - Calc Acceptance)
| David fighting a bully | David | 540 m/s | Sandevistan | Accepted |
| Solo avoiding a Railgun | Solo | Mach 7-28.43 | Enhanced Reflexes | Not Evaluated |
| V blocks a Tech Weapon | V | Mach 7.25 | Enhanced Reflexes | Accepted |
| V's Kerenzikov speed | V | Mach 18.1 | Kerenzikov | Accepted |
| David vs Maelstorm | David / Maelstorm | Mach 18.99 | Sandevistan | Accepted |
| David rushes a Tyger Claw | David | Mach 42-235 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
| V's Sandevistan (in-game) | V | Mach 48.36 | Sandevistan | Accepted |
| V's Sandevistan (Lore scaling) | V | Mach 145 | Sandevistan | Accepted |
| David's speed compared to an explosion | David | Mach 205 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
| James freezes Raindrops | James Norris | Mach 259-648 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
| BD showing a bullet dodge | James Norris (David as the POV) | Mach 267-709 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
| David freezes a truck | David | Mach 480 | Sandevistan | Accepted |
| James Norris' high end | James Norris | Mach 2,282 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
| David / Smasher freezes bullets | David / Adam Smasher | Mach 1,039-2,868 | Sandevistan | Not Evaluated |
To my memory we all agreed the Rel stuff wasn't useable.
At the moment the highest accepted ends are V's Mach 145 end and David's Mach 480 end.
At the moment the MHS end is the only accepted one. However, we have to decide if we're basing the scaling on V or David and if the David/Smasher gung calc gets accepted we'll have to discuss on if we're making them MHS+ or not.
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Not a big deal, but wasn't the David vs Maelstrom calc accepted as Mach 18? Pretty sure the high-end got accepted.
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The only comment is from Dale who says
Which I presume meant "Supersonic end seems fine" since there was no subsonic end.
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No, I think they meant my assumption that David moved at "Subsonic speeds". Could be wrong tho. But my calc used three methods. And one assumed Subsonic.
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I'll update it then
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So is everyone good with the profile at the moment?
Also @LaserPrecision I would ask to get the James and HMG calc looked at before the CRT goes up.
Also @LaserPrecision I would ask to get the James and HMG calc looked at before the CRT goes up.
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I mean smasher is getting his sandy that matched and even outdone david in the next update and we'll no doubt match and overcome him, so it only makes sense that we scale both V and david with sandy as at least relative.
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I meant is the rating Mach 145 through V or Mach 480 through David.
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I mean if david's is already accepted why not that one?
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