Cybermen and Dalek Upgrades

[Colonel_Krukov]

Daleks:

• Attack Potency ― Small building level (3 Daleks incinerated a house) http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/The_Stolen_Earth_(TV_story)#Plot
  

• Durability ― At least Small building level (It took lots and lots of their own fire power to kill them) https://youtu.be/f0iV7TUE_rI?t=2m37s
  

• Attacks/Techniques:
  

• Emergency Temporal Shift (teleports to a location in space-time) http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Temporal_shift
  

• Weaknesses - Concentrated fire on the eye stalk can blind the Dalek http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Dalek#Vulnerabilities
  

Cybermen:

• Speed ― (Flight Subsonic+) (Caught up with a jet) https://youtu.be/ZFZaqsaJ4eE
  

• Attack Potency ― At least Wall level (Blew up a car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfv4ER3fH9Y&ab_channel=Cyberlieutenant
  

• Durability ― At least Wall level (Immune to bullets) likely higher through upgrading.
  

• Attack/Techniques-
  
  • Cybermen can appear to move stealthly https://youtu.be/u385nedQCv8?t=9s
    
    
    • Limbs like the head and arm operate independently as well as the main body itself. (head can shoot sleeper darts as well) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li8pNo7xFis&ab_channel=BBCWorldwide
    • Cybermites are insect like creatures that can partially upgrade foes (would take a large swarm to fully upgrade a victim. Cybermites can also revive dead Cybermen. http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cybermite
    • Upgrading ― Can upgrade weaknesses to become immune to that form of attack http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Nightmare_in_Silver_(TV_story)#Plot

• Weaknesses ― Code behind the emotional inhibitor (6879760) http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Emotional_inhibitor
  

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Bump

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Bump

 

[Jockey-1337]

I agree

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Aren't houses themselves small buildings? If so, I don't think that having 3 to destroy one house qualifies as small building, and the fact that fire did it doesn't help. Although, if a house was normal building level, then it's legit.

Everything else seems very legit, except for the fact that immunity to bullets can possibly still be street level.

All in all, good work.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that this seems reasonable.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Aren't houses themselves small buildings? If so, I don't think that having 3 to destroy one house qualifies as small building, and the fact that fire did it doesn't help. Although, if a house was normal building level, then it's legit.
Everything else seems very legit, except for the fact that immunity to bullets can possibly still be street level.

All in all, good work.

Those Cybermen are the mk6 version, the mk7 are more durable and upgraded to be immune to your generic space lasers (episode Nightmare in Silver) that was originally disintergrating them. As for the Daleks, the Paradigm Daleks have a bit more firepower.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

In that case, I'm fully on board.

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I think that this seems reasonable.

Should I update the pages, or is more input needed?

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it should be alright in this case.

 

[TakatoBlue]

What about THIS SPEED FEAT for Cybermen?


Cybermen Speed feat

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I wasn't sure about this as the Cybermen were still marching normally in future episodes and feels like a one off. The official wiki claims this to be FTE. Shall I add this?

 

[Antvasima]

It may be an inconsistency. From what I remember of the Cybermen, they did not appear to be significantly swifter than human, in the episodes featuring them that I have watched.

 

[TakatoBlue]

Maybe we should add them by creating a key like "Post Cyber-Wars Cybermen".

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberman_(Mondas)

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber-Wars


"A thousand years after the destruction of the Tiberian spiral galaxy and the end of the Cyber-Wars, the Cybermen were thought to be extinct. Yet surviving Cybermen lay beneath the future site of Hedgewick's World of Wonders. When the theme park was built, the Cybermen began using Cybermites to kidnap people as "spare parts". Angieand Artie Maitland arrived on Hedgewick's World with the Eleventh Doctor and their nanny, Clara, and were taken by the Cybermen. With enough components to reawaken them, after being presumed extinct for a thousand years, the Cybermen awoke from their tombs."

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Maybe we should add them by creating a key like "Post Cyber-Wars Cybermen".
http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyberman_(Mondas)

http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Cyber-Wars


"A thousand years after the destruction of the Tiberian spiral galaxy and the end of the Cyber-Wars, the Cybermen were thought to be extinct. Yet surviving Cybermen lay beneath the future site of Hedgewick's World of Wonders. When the theme park was built, the Cybermen began using Cybermites to kidnap people as "spare parts". Angieand Artie Maitland arrived on Hedgewick's World with the Eleventh Doctor and their nanny, Clara, and were taken by the Cybermen. With enough components to reawaken them, after being presumed extinct for a thousand years, the Cybermen awoke from their tombs."

I agree, although it would be better to have Cybus Cyberme and Cybermen (Mondas) since Cybermen of the Cyber Wars are a mix of both.

 

[Antvasima]

I think that it is most likely an outlier. If they were truly this swift, there is no way that the Doctor would be able to react quickly enough to outmanoeuvre them.

 

[Gwynbleiddd]

At last some feats for Daleks and Cybermen.I agree with most of the suggestions but as Ant said Cybermen aren't usually that fast (though i haven't seen the episode where the presented scenes where shown so it's a bit hard to judge).

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

I think it's fair to disregard this feat for now. If this speed is shown again in the upcoming series (or any time in the future for that matter) then we maybe add this speed feat. The feat is drawn from the episode called Nightmare in Silver (Season 7 Episode 12 of the revived era).

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. So, should I close this thread?

 

[Colonel_Krukov]

Okay. So, should I close this thread?

Yes