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My big issue with that statement is exactly what you're saying: how vague it is.
The whole thing, from looking at it, really could be one big hyperbole.
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The whole thing, from looking at it, really could be one big hyperbole.
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No because the fact that chaos is created the world back up the statement
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I'm saying it's vague when used as a main argument like what he's the Zelas is doing. It would be vague as it's own stand-off argument.
Using it as supporting evidence for the whole cath's monologue about the death of stars and indirect statement that would scale him to his monologue
Yeah I also don't see how it's hyperbole either, I don't see why Cath would be hyperbolic when asked his true objective with the full power of chaos in my opinion
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Isn't the statement just that they all die eventually though?
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Yes there's that and what i was talking about in the previous message could be used as a supporting evidence.
And that statement isn't hyperbole either
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If he's just saying "everything will die eventually," why is the conclusion being drawn that he's the one doing it? Saying "all things die eventually" is just a fact of life. Doesn't mean Chaos is doing it himself
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The conclusion is drawn from the fact that after his monologue Arthur asks him
And he responds with Bingo which I'm inclined to believe it's implying he would do the forementioned events. Cath eating arthur in this context would let him use chaos at it's full power btw
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Ah, now I see the big problem with this: That's not what that means at all. After looking at the context, I can fully understand:
What Chaos means is that all things will die eventually, so Arthur may as well allow Chaos to eat him since he's gonna die eventually. He then says all the other things that this same concept applies to, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he'll destroy all of them instantly. Will he spread mass destruction? Will he destroy all these things? Most likely yes, but it's too vague. Will the stars and the countries and all that be annihilated in one shot? If yes, sure that's a Tier 4 feat, but we can't say that for sure. Overtime destruction feats also exist
The most I’d give these guys is “At least [current tier], likely far higher” for their AP. Since they are High 6-C right now, I’d give them “At least High 6-C, likely far higher”
Edit: I'm repeatedly editing this because I'm getting multiple thoughts about this thing's meaning all at once, don't mind me
What Chaos means is that all things will die eventually, so Arthur may as well allow Chaos to eat him since he's gonna die eventually. He then says all the other things that this same concept applies to, but it doesn't necessarily mean that he'll destroy all of them instantly. Will he spread mass destruction? Will he destroy all these things? Most likely yes, but it's too vague. Will the stars and the countries and all that be annihilated in one shot? If yes, sure that's a Tier 4 feat, but we can't say that for sure. Overtime destruction feats also exist
The most I’d give these guys is “At least [current tier], likely far higher” for their AP. Since they are High 6-C right now, I’d give them “At least High 6-C, likely far higher”
Edit: I'm repeatedly editing this because I'm getting multiple thoughts about this thing's meaning all at once, don't mind me
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thetechmaster36
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I think it's fine to solve here, since the CRT involves Cath's statements anyways.
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It's only for one statement, Cath has three in total where he says he's going to destroy everything and giving a time would not be coherent because as we know the world of humans comes from a single thought of chaos
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All the supposed High 4-C feats are never shown, have vague explanations, the potential to be overtime, and are massive outliers compared to every feat in the verse
Tell me again why we’re using them?
Tell me again why we’re using them?
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Rabbit2002
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that scan already in Chaos and Arthur profile
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Yeah this interpretation seems more reasonable to the one I was saying earlier and I don't know how y'all treat creation feats because Chaos Would be At least 5-B since he created the planet from nothing
It being a massive outlier is instantiate that it scales to their stats(which it doesn't by the way), What exactly is vague about " The Demon King created ____" and so one there's no reason for that to be vague
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Yeah, and Chaos was born in a universe so human world they mention is Earth not the entire universe
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Honestly, i would like put chaos or Arthur to unknown rating, since fullpower chaos are really featless. And Arthur with power of chaos potientally Will become villain or even final villain in 4koa, so i think no need to rush for vague statement while the sequel still going on.
For the entire 3 realm the most clearly feats is, it has 2 moons and their lightsource sky
For the entire 3 realm the most clearly feats is, it has 2 moons and their lightsource sky
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What's vague is how you guys always wank what the Demon World and Goddess Realm are...
They have no confirmed sizes, they aren't stated to be the dimensions, they aren't confirmed to have created stars, they have no given timeframe, and we have no idea how they were performed
There's literally 0 reasons to use these feats at all outside of just wanting higher tiers
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I can proof the size with the kanji sekai
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People say Sekai more than they drink water
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no it's a legend told by two old people
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There's literally not wank. You've failed to prove all this on numerous occasions. From the Showings we can conclude that the realms are as big as its shown "Contains a moon and a lightsource" you've failed to prove that the celestial objects aren't within its confinement in the past idk why you're so hellbent on this.
That's literally why it's classified as " High 4-C via creation" because we don't know how it's created other than it is created.
These feats are too big to ignore just because we haven't even seen a feat like this before, that's why it doesn't even scale to their stats.
Everytime you call it wank but never prove why it is wank, it's actually gets annoying
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So legend told and Merlin's statement are wrong ?
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chaos has already exploits like him state 2 times being able to destroy everything he scales on the creation of the human world moreover and on the fact that he created the gods who his dk and ds and the demon world contains a sun also I can demonstrate it is not only a source of light there is also a sun
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No because it can be confirmed by other things in the work
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Any example ?
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only the legend is false because she is an old person from the village she knows almost nothing about chaos if she knows things you should demonstrate it but we know that the only real source is merlin since for 3000 years she has studied on chaos
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Why am I so hellbent on this? Because a verse that spits out only 6-B feats is using extremely vague evidence to get them to High 4-C and refuses to even entertain the idea that they're misreading the feats...
It's never confirmed the Demon World and Supreme Deity are referring to actual Dimensions, we have no given timeframe of the feats, we have no idea how they were performed, and so on and so forth, how on earth are we scaling the guys who get killed by country nuking calcs to creating stars, when they have not shown the capability to do this in any form even once
I mean jesus, might as well Momoshiki 4-B by this logic
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as in the panel of cosmology where it is said that the dk created the world of demons the ds created the celestial kingdom and that chaos created the world of humans
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what exemple?
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Like planetary and possible large star level for chaos characters except cath
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5-B Chaos for sure, but the High 4-C stuff for Chaos, the Demon King, and Supreme Deity need to go
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