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those are arbitrary
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Cosmic Garou + Saitama mftl+ change?
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Yeah.
They wouldn't be arbitrary. They're stated timeframes for similar feats preformed by demonstrably worse characters.
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isn't there a slowest possible shockwave? It's inherently faster than the speed of sound so, I'm pretty sure you could get a low-mid shockwave end
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I agree with damage
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No. A shockwave is completely dependent on the medium and the energy of the event that generates the shockwave. It's why the more explosives you put in something the bigger and faster the shockwave is. It's also why sound travels much faster in solids than it does in liquids or air.
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We are given the feat with a timeframe
We're given the exact same feat but on a larger scale with no timeframe
Why would the first and second shockwaves be different?
The atmosphere reasoning doesn't apply as the canon timeframe is inconsistent with real shockwave speed, so even if we get the shockwave speed on io it shouldn't be used
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Probably the most direct resolutive suggestion.
Unless Damage has a problem with it?
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I'd like to hear where the 0.5 second end comes from.
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Garou's timeframe against ENW.
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I see. Well, two extra ends can be created for 0.0013 and 0.5
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Speed of sound in sulfur dioxide is 206 m/s
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Can you stop repeating this as if it actually proves anything?
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How the **** doesn’t it prove anything? You’re literally just staring at the valid argument and saying “but uhhh no it doesn’t”
What the hell do you want me to explain? That’s literally the proof and you’re just denying it because you don’t understand the basic logic of the fact that if you react to something then you weren’t blitzed
holy shit
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@ZillertheBucko Please calm down. You won't get anywhere posting like that.
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I don’t see how that scales to this
all the solutions given are just arbitrarily based on things he did in the past
just because he crossed a different distance at a difference speed in another fight doesn’t mean he got tossed around an insanely massively longer distance in this fight with the same timeframe
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Screaming after being hit is a reaction to the fact that you were hit, not a reaction to the attacker in question
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yes, and he reacted before he hit the rock, so it’s contradictory to say that him being thrown around IO was all done in a timeframe that could blitz him, since clearly he was able to react multiple times before the sequence ended, thus directly invalidating the timeframe.
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Garou in a much weaker state can perform a bunch of movements in this timeframe, and he turned around a bunch, indicating he was reacting to his own movement. So, he can react in such a small amount of time, yet he couldn't react to Saitama's movements in a much stronger state.
That was after he was hit, so that doesn't mean anything. If I got hit by a bullet and screamed from the pain, that doesn't mean I reacted to the bullet
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Yes, but the calc isn't just for Saitama's first punch.
It's all the movements he took after that.
Sure, but if after that bullet hit you it then ricocheted 10,000 times around the room; we wouldn't use your reactions for the movements of that bullet.
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For the love of god I literally just directly explained why that’s wrong
I can’t do this with you, I’ll let someone with more patience explain this
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I can't find it. Either I'm missing something or you gave a poor explanation
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Reacting in pain after getting hit doesn't disprove a speed blitz. Had he yelled in fear before the punch landed ,then it wouldn't Be a speed blitz.
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Shouldn' the mid end be accepted since the rocks appear frozen when Saitama sends Garou flying around Io?
Like here, you can observe the dots where Saitama clashes with Garou to send him flying all while the remains of Io appear frozen in the air during the motuon
This isn't anything new its something Murata does to showcase speed like when Boros used Meteoric Burst or Flashy vs the ninja bros.
Like here, you can observe the dots where Saitama clashes with Garou to send him flying all while the remains of Io appear frozen in the air during the motuon
This isn't anything new its something Murata does to showcase speed like when Boros used Meteoric Burst or Flashy vs the ninja bros.
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You need more than just a single panel for the "rocks to appear frozen".
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Oh my god I can’t believe you
I’m so done with this.
It doesn’t ******* matter if the punch speed blitzed him or not, it’s the fact that he was able to react to being hit before he hit the first rock, so clearly hitting HUNDREDS OF ROCKS WASN’T DONE IN SHORT ENOUGH TIME TO BLITZ HIM.
god damn you people need to stop being stonewalls that just deny reality when faced with a valid argument
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I think you're missing Zillerthebucko's point .I think this is what he is trying to say (I myself have no opinion on this thread though ) :
1.Garou got punched by saitama
2.After being hit ,Garou screamed in pain
3.and that happened before he was thrown into somewhere else/point B
4.Then Saitama Punched him again ,So we shouldn't assume that Saitama blitzied Garou through the entire IO .
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@ZillertheBucko I just warned you about this. Knock it off.
If you don't like what they're posting, so what? It's the staff members involved that you need to convince and the staff members are being level-headed.
If you don't like what they're posting, so what? It's the staff members involved that you need to convince and the staff members are being level-headed.
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I mean the staff members weren’t the ones stonewalling so, I guess it’s just whatever
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Upgrade boros to inaccessible speed for being almost a real fight then
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Why don't use the stones that are literally standing still in the air?
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Moving slowly relative to Saitama & Garou =/= Literally frozen.
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They seem to stand still to me
