Cosmic Cube Thanos vs MCU Dormammu (Grace)

[Eficiente]

Can't believe we finally downgraded IG Thanos.

Speed = (Cuz Omnipresence means nothing)

Cosmic Cube Thanos: 1 (ABoogieYesSir)

MCU Dormammu: 8 (Ercosore, Zark2099, EmperorDoom25, KingEzran, JooCipher, Schnee One, Edwardtruong2006, The Wright Way)

Inconclusive: 0

 

[Jackythejack]

IG thanos got downgraded? When did this happen? What was the thread?

 

[Eficiente]

The thread was linked in his profile iirc. I couldn't participate but I assure you this is accurate, as the feat was just using Attack Reflection/Technological Manipulation on a 2-A thing, which is not a 2-A feat at all.

 

[Jackythejack]

Nah I'm sure it's legit I'm just curious and wanna see the thread.

 

[Ercosore]

It´s because he used to be scaled to the ultimate nullifier, who used to be 2-A.

Edit: Back on topic, how high into 2-C is MCU Dormamu?

 

[KingEzran]

Thanos for regen, petrification, and death manip.

 

[Eficiente]

I count the vote but using 2 one time used powers for a character with years of history is pretty redundant, not to mention those powers will likely not work on someone made out of time-space.

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Thanos FRA and I don't know if Death Manipulate would work on a non-corporeal and Dormammu's Fusionism sounds kinda op.

 

[Ercosore]

Dormammu is Incorporeal so petrification would be a non-factor. Regarding death manip, acording to his profile he has it because he can "kill people in an universe where death doesn´t exist", idk if his death manp works any other way,

 

[Eficiente]

That death manip used to be EE (it came from the same feat). And it could just be Regenerationn Negation or something like that.

 

[Ercosore]

I see, then it doesn´t seem he could use it like people were sugesting. CC Thanos is one with the universe right? Couldn´t Dormammu just absorb him since absorbing dimensions is his thing?

 

[Eficiente]

Yeah he is universe-sized, and Dormammu could absorb him. In the thread where all the evidence for Dormammu's stats was brought Matt even said that he remembered some interview where Dormammu was stated to be one with his Dark Dimension, unfortunately no one was able to find it.

 

[Ercosore]

Funilly enough I think that makes MCU Dormammu the most comic book acuarate character in the MCU stats and abilities wise. Anyways I vote for Dormammu via absortion.

 

[Eficiente]

Bump.

 

[The_Impress]

I'd vote for Dormammu FRA

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Dormammu FRA

 

[KingEzran]

Switch me to Dormammu FRA.

 

[Eficiente]

Bump.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dorm can absorb Thanos?

 

[Eficiente]

Since Thanos is the universe, yes. If his profile were to give him normal Massively FTL+ speeds on that key then idk, maybe Dormammu wouldn't start with that.

Or not, Thanos is at his best and we still rank Omnipresence as a type of speed, for some reason.

 

[JooCipher]

Dormammu FRA

 

[Schnee_One]

Dormammu FRA

 

[Jinsye]

Dormammu FRA

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Never thought I'd see an MCU character beat the original Thanos but okay. Dormammu FRA.

 

[Schnee_One]

Dormammu in the MCU actually has better speed then his canon counterpart

 

[HammerStrikes219]

Since Thanos is the universe, yes. If his profile were to give him normal Massively FTL+ speeds on that key then idk, maybe Dormammu wouldn't start with that.
Or not, Thanos is at his best and we still rank Omnipresence as a type of speed, for some reason.

Apparently on the Speed page, there is a note regarding that part:

"While Omnipresence is, strictly speaking, not speed, it is listed as a speed statistic due to behaving in combat similarly to how normal speed would. For example, a being that is omnipresent within 3-D space would win every race against an opponent with normal speed, due to already being at the goal by the time the race starts. In addition, an attack from an omnipresent being is unavoidable with normal speed due to the attack being in every location in the universe at once."

And that is about it, really.

 

[Eficiente]

@HammerStrikes There are at least 2 things wrong on that note, but I'm not going to talk about it here.

 

[HammerStrikes219]

@Eficiente

Well there is a description of something about omnipresence to be more like a state of being as well, but yeah a bit derailing here.

"(This is technically a state of being, rather than a speed, but has consequences for combat similar to that of a speed statistic. For practical comparisons, each case requires more detailed consideration.)"

 

[Ercosore]

This should be closed, Dormammu won.

 

[Eficiente]

Why did you came just to say that? This should be added first, there is no reason to close this before that.

 

[Ercosore]

Because isn´t that how it works? Grace ends after a few days, thread is closed and fight is added. My appologies if I am mistaken, I just though it worked that way.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Grace ends after one day actually.

 

[Eficiente]

@Ercosore I mean, yes, but the important part is to add the match-up, most vsthreads aren't closed and that's fine, it's not something bad for anyone. Meanwhile give a bump the match-ups addition request thread is not a thing anyone can do, we are only able to communicate in the vsthread itself.

 

[Ercosore]

Well that makes sence. Thanks for explaining.

 

[Corgi_the_Gen_Z_God]

I like Dormammu

 

[The_Impress]

Useful contributions going on in this thread. Let me add to that