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High-Godly Regenerationn and type 9
They are restored after a full reset/erase of the universe:
In Violence Jack, Satan has fully recovered from the erasures of the old universe
In Devilman Crybaby, Jenny mentions that Satan is still weak after a previous battle with God (when God creating a new reality, his completely rewrites the space and time of the universe)
Space and time in the Devilman universe, includes the material world as well as the Heavens (God realm) and the Hell, which includes its own dimension, Underworld (Hades realm) and they all exist simultaneously as independent universes (that confirmed several times) created by God (except to the world of Hades)
Hades is also able to recreate the universe, as he directly stated to Akira, in exchange for a deal - Devilman will kill his worst enemy, and Hades will recreate the old world and will not erase the existence of Miki Hades made a deal because he was very weak having spent the greater part of his power to restore the essence of his wife and he needed to urgently restore their own reality in which the souls of the dead arrive after death Given that God's abilities span the entire universe, and he is able to harm Satan, that the ability of demons to recover after the creation of a new universe is justified.
Note: Even after the erasure of existence, demons can exist as a pure will. Also only in the material world they limited by the body (which are possessed), and their real form can be restored even after erasure of existence of universe.
The demons' will is not mind, soul or consciousness - it is something that exists outside of the ordinary three-dimensional universe as they experience it every time. In addition, God erases all aspects of the existing universe, so the word survive here is not very suitable - they completely disappear in the process, which means the need to recover not just from the mind but from a completely different level (absolutely all physical bodies are only the embodiments in the case of Satan, and possessed people, in the case of demons, and even the weakest demons, whose strength does not exceed the wall, recover from it every time). Demons' recover after their existence is erased, alongside the reality that they are present within (3-D) that exists up to they own dimensional level (4-D). After all, God erases it all. Also God is High 2-A because there's 5-D space in DS and he's creator. He wanted to erase it. He couldn't.
Also there's discussion about Regenerating from your will, which is at 5-D is type 9. I'm neutral on this one.
http://s3.mkklcdnv2.com/************/d1/devilman_lady/vol15_chapter_1_the_gap_in_time/18.jpg
https://www.***********.net/devilman-tai-yami-no-teiou/11/27
Devilman Saga is basically alternate timeline so the 5-D statement below is valid. If the 5-D space is there, it's likely made by God, because he's always portrayed as the one created all of the Devilman Verse.
Higher-Dimensional Manipulation and Range
[1]
[2]
[3]
In my opinion, this is Higher-Dimensional Manipulation. It's breaking barrier between higher dimensions to flood the dimension with Higher-Dimensional matter, colliding the universe with 5-D in the process. And because his ability reached 5-D and he's also came from 5-D space traveled to natural Universe. This should give him High Multiversal+ Range.
And no, this doesn't give him Low 2-C or High 2-A. It's Yhwach effect. He's just involuntarily contributing in the destruction. Also being made up of 5-D matter shouldn't change the tier either, it's far too inconsistent. The best feat I can think of physically is threatening Los Angeles. Too much anti-feats.
Human Akira Res to Void, EE and RW
https://i.imgur.com/2Dmqbwg.png
https://i.imgur.com/pNaQVRx.png
Satan couldn't manipulate the world he created or turn into nothingness just because Jack is there in the world.
2-C, possibly High 2-A God tiers
Okay. The biggest part of this revision. Being comparable to God is the main reason why Satan and Devilman are Low 2-C. The problem is that God also created hell, which is another Universe outside of the material universe. That's what the focus of Mao Dante, going to the spiritual Universe aka hell. That is two Universe and blatant feat for 2-C.
But there's more. The cosmology blog pointed out that hell may be 5-D. Several statements from the doctor from Devilman Saga and Akira's statement in Devilman Lady supports that. Because it's possible, not definite, the tiering also need to mirror it. Hence it is possibly High 2-A.
Basically, God, Full-powered Satan, Devilman and Zenon should be 2-C, possibly High 2-A.
Human's Low-Mid
This is not really much, I just messed it up. Regenerating an arm is Low-Mid not High-Low. My bad when I was editing it.
Res to Mind for demons
http://************.com/chapter/devilman_lady/chapter_14.05
They're part of the human unconscious, being able to affect every single one of the humans actions. They should get res to mind because mindhaxing them is like mindhaxing all humans across past, present and future. Also the humans mind may be connected to the past destroyed universes, as Akira traveled creation before universe when traveling in Asuka's mind, looking like a space or Universe.
Also I just wanted to say, I want this fury of revisions to end eternally.
They are restored after a full reset/erase of the universe:
In Violence Jack, Satan has fully recovered from the erasures of the old universe
In Devilman Crybaby, Jenny mentions that Satan is still weak after a previous battle with God (when God creating a new reality, his completely rewrites the space and time of the universe)
Space and time in the Devilman universe, includes the material world as well as the Heavens (God realm) and the Hell, which includes its own dimension, Underworld (Hades realm) and they all exist simultaneously as independent universes (that confirmed several times) created by God (except to the world of Hades)
Hades is also able to recreate the universe, as he directly stated to Akira, in exchange for a deal - Devilman will kill his worst enemy, and Hades will recreate the old world and will not erase the existence of Miki Hades made a deal because he was very weak having spent the greater part of his power to restore the essence of his wife and he needed to urgently restore their own reality in which the souls of the dead arrive after death Given that God's abilities span the entire universe, and he is able to harm Satan, that the ability of demons to recover after the creation of a new universe is justified.
Note: Even after the erasure of existence, demons can exist as a pure will. Also only in the material world they limited by the body (which are possessed), and their real form can be restored even after erasure of existence of universe.
The demons' will is not mind, soul or consciousness - it is something that exists outside of the ordinary three-dimensional universe as they experience it every time. In addition, God erases all aspects of the existing universe, so the word survive here is not very suitable - they completely disappear in the process, which means the need to recover not just from the mind but from a completely different level (absolutely all physical bodies are only the embodiments in the case of Satan, and possessed people, in the case of demons, and even the weakest demons, whose strength does not exceed the wall, recover from it every time). Demons' recover after their existence is erased, alongside the reality that they are present within (3-D) that exists up to they own dimensional level (4-D). After all, God erases it all. Also God is High 2-A because there's 5-D space in DS and he's creator. He wanted to erase it. He couldn't.
Also there's discussion about Regenerating from your will, which is at 5-D is type 9. I'm neutral on this one.
http://s3.mkklcdnv2.com/************/d1/devilman_lady/vol15_chapter_1_the_gap_in_time/18.jpg
https://www.***********.net/devilman-tai-yami-no-teiou/11/27
Devilman Saga is basically alternate timeline so the 5-D statement below is valid. If the 5-D space is there, it's likely made by God, because he's always portrayed as the one created all of the Devilman Verse.
Higher-Dimensional Manipulation and Range
[1]
[2]
[3]
In my opinion, this is Higher-Dimensional Manipulation. It's breaking barrier between higher dimensions to flood the dimension with Higher-Dimensional matter, colliding the universe with 5-D in the process. And because his ability reached 5-D and he's also came from 5-D space traveled to natural Universe. This should give him High Multiversal+ Range.
And no, this doesn't give him Low 2-C or High 2-A. It's Yhwach effect. He's just involuntarily contributing in the destruction. Also being made up of 5-D matter shouldn't change the tier either, it's far too inconsistent. The best feat I can think of physically is threatening Los Angeles. Too much anti-feats.
Human Akira Res to Void, EE and RW
https://i.imgur.com/2Dmqbwg.png
https://i.imgur.com/pNaQVRx.png
Satan couldn't manipulate the world he created or turn into nothingness just because Jack is there in the world.
2-C, possibly High 2-A God tiers
Okay. The biggest part of this revision. Being comparable to God is the main reason why Satan and Devilman are Low 2-C. The problem is that God also created hell, which is another Universe outside of the material universe. That's what the focus of Mao Dante, going to the spiritual Universe aka hell. That is two Universe and blatant feat for 2-C.
But there's more. The cosmology blog pointed out that hell may be 5-D. Several statements from the doctor from Devilman Saga and Akira's statement in Devilman Lady supports that. Because it's possible, not definite, the tiering also need to mirror it. Hence it is possibly High 2-A.
Basically, God, Full-powered Satan, Devilman and Zenon should be 2-C, possibly High 2-A.
Human's Low-Mid
This is not really much, I just messed it up. Regenerating an arm is Low-Mid not High-Low. My bad when I was editing it.
Res to Mind for demons
http://************.com/chapter/devilman_lady/chapter_14.05
They're part of the human unconscious, being able to affect every single one of the humans actions. They should get res to mind because mindhaxing them is like mindhaxing all humans across past, present and future. Also the humans mind may be connected to the past destroyed universes, as Akira traveled creation before universe when traveling in Asuka's mind, looking like a space or Universe.
Also I just wanted to say, I want this fury of revisions to end eternally.