Composite Human vs. Agent 47

[GreyFang82]

Here

That isn't wrestling or BJJ, that is all striking combat. We all know 47 is amazing at striking, but striking is countered by grappling and from what has been shown 47 has no experince in countering that.

 

[GreyFang82]

But like I said with speed unequal I don't think CH even has a chance to close the gap.

 

[Jinsye]

I made this match like an hour before 47 got upped to supersonic.

Speed is equal now

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Equal speed means CH outskills and outsmarts to a massive degree.

 

[GreyFang82]

In that case, I actually think that if CH closes the gap he can takedown 47, get him in an armbar or some other hold, and restrict his movements. 47 is outmatched by CH Lift Strength so he can't break out. And CH can just sit there and slowly pummel him to death or use leverage to break his limbs.

47 is still a human so his joints can still be broken by their physiological flaws.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Instinct is a thing you know.

9-C vs 9-B dura.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Instinct is a thing you know.

9-C vs 9-B dura.

CH has dozens of methods to beat 9-B dura. Complete knowledge of human biology plus mastery of every martial art ever kind of does that.

 

[GreyFang82]

Instinct is a thing you know.
9-C vs 9-B dura.

Ok, so CH can't pummel him dead, but he still has a human body that is susceptible to joint locks and breaks. Locks don't deal damage like strikes do, unless you want to say all the real life MMA fighters have 9-C AP for breaking arms and legs with those locks.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

It's not like 47 is going to stand there and let CH hit him.

47 just shoots him with that 9-C dura.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

It's not like 47 is going to stand there and let CH hit him.

47 just shoots him with that 9-C dura.

Skill allows for aim dodging.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Humans can aim dodge?

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Humans can aim dodge?

Aim dodging is knowing where an attack is coming from and moving the second it starts, so yes.

 

[Paul_Frank]

'''I N S T I N C T'''

 

[GreyFang82]

Instinct says it fails to work on people comparable to him, are you saying CH is complete fodder? If so then stomp. If not then... what the hell?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Only his "time slow" doesn't work on people comparable to him, he can still sense CH.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

I doubt sensing will matter once distance is closed.

 

[GreyFang82]

Only his "time slow" doesn't work on people comparable to him, he can still sense CH.

Ok so he can try and pin point weaknesses and placement... now what?

You can't say 47 can't get taken down. That's what most people who never seen MMA or has only used striking Martial Arts say to downplay. 47 has yet to show he fought ANY grappler, now take him with little to no experience fighting a grappler then face him off with the best grappler to ever exist. Saying he can't be taken down is redundant.

Now for the gun fight... so are all his weapons 9-B? His pistols shoot 9-B bullets?

 

[Jinsye]

Human has 9-C dura so...

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Seriously tho, can any human dodge bullets? I ask tht sometimes but nobody ever shows me anyone doing that. Also, by "comparable to him" do they mean AP or something else? Cause CH is 9-C.

 

[GreyFang82]

Human has 9-C dura so...

What is that suppose to mean?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

He gets oneshotted, and CH isn't a casual bullet timer.

 

[Jinsye]

Guns are still effective against someone with 9-C dura

especially considering guns are piercing.

 

[GreyFang82]

Seriously tho, can any human dodge bullets? I ask tht sometimes but nobody ever shows me anyone doing that. Also, by "comparable to him" do they mean AP or something else? Cause CH is 9-C.

I don't think there is any human who has dodged bullets... but they can move faster than someone can point the gun. Especially if you have subsonic predictions and the movement speed of Usain, but I'm not sure that counts because of speed equal.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Ok, then link me to a video of someone doing that, that's what I'm asking.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Seriously tho, can any human dodge bullets? I ask tht sometimes but nobody ever shows me anyone doing that. Also, by "comparable to him" do they mean AP or something else? Cause CH is 9-C.

It's called, getting out of the way before it's fired.

 

[GreyFang82]

Guns are still effective against someone with 9-C dura
especially considering guns are piercing.

CH is Street Level+, he likely still gets bullets that pierce skin and into muscle, but I don't think a normal bullet will pierce the skull or other thick bones. Considering 8x bone denisity is really good for stopping bullets that don't even reach the high-end of Street Level.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Ok, then link me to a video of someone doing that, that's what I'm asking.

Why is it so hard to believe that's possible? Someone's about to shoot you, you move before the bullet is fired. Not exactly difficult.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

The Silver Ballers (47's signature weapon) is 9-B.

 

[GreyFang82]

The Silver Ballers (47's signature weapon) is 9-B.

Damn, sounds like CH doesn't really have a chance here.

Match starts and if he doesn't duck into cover he gets one-shot. He can't effectively beat 47 in a straight up fight, and the only possible way he could win is impossible because he can't get close enough.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Why is it so hard to believe that's possible? Someone's about to shoot you, you move before the bullet is fired. Not exactly difficult.

Because I want confirmation, specially since we'll have to find someone who can do that casually and constantly, or else 47 can just keep shooting him, since the gun would already be pointed.

 

[TacticalNuke002]

Didn't 47 fight ninjas in the old Hitman 2? They spammed aim dodging and used SMGs and katanas. And he could take on an entire castle's worth of them at once and win.

Not to mention, there's only so much aim dodging CH can do before 47 compensates for it and shoots him.

 

[GreyFang82]

I'm kinda leaning toward saying this match being a stomp.

 

[KLOL506]

Ort-Meyer literally made 47 to have the best abilities of humanity so that he could be the perfect assassin, this has repeatedly been stated in Codename 47 and it's literally the plot theme. He used the DNA from his own body and 4 other dangerous men and then performed illegal experiments until he could get the right clone. 47 was also trained in kickboxing and other types of martial arts in his early days, so yeah, he's experienced with that, plus, there's the bar fight. So yeah, outskilling and outperforming 47 who can do the exact same feats is out of question.

 

[KLOL506]

Not like it'd matter, this match feels like a stomp to me.

 

[KLOL506]

And yes, 47 fought ninjas when he was on a mission to assassinate Hayamoto and effectively wiped them out.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Now that 47 is 9-B this is probably a stomp, completely forgot about that pivotal point

 

[KLOL506]

Very sed.

Mod can close this thread then.

Then again, how does a 9-C fight off an equally-skilled 9-B in the first place?