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Composite Boxer Vs Ikki Kurogane - Skillz Only
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The power strikes of Mike Tyson.
The agile techniques of Muhammad Ali.
The unbreakable defense of Floyd Mayweather.
The instinctive evasion of Canelo Alvarez.
The aggression of Manny Pacquiao.
The 'crazy' endurance of Joe Frazier.
The knockout intuition of Archie Moore.
The experience of Ray Robinson.
And the collective intellect of so many more...
Ikki simply can not compare to the technique, versatility, knowledge, and most of all, the experience of all boxers that have ever stepped foot in the ring. He's competing against a character who will see every crack in his defense, fully comprehend each technique he uses, foretell every attack the moment his muscles twitch, and counter every single move he makes with fierce, calculated strikes. What this boxer has in his hands is far greater than the sword Ikki wields.
The agile techniques of Muhammad Ali.
The unbreakable defense of Floyd Mayweather.
The instinctive evasion of Canelo Alvarez.
The aggression of Manny Pacquiao.
The 'crazy' endurance of Joe Frazier.
The knockout intuition of Archie Moore.
The experience of Ray Robinson.
And the collective intellect of so many more...
Ikki simply can not compare to the technique, versatility, knowledge, and most of all, the experience of all boxers that have ever stepped foot in the ring. He's competing against a character who will see every crack in his defense, fully comprehend each technique he uses, foretell every attack the moment his muscles twitch, and counter every single move he makes with fierce, calculated strikes. What this boxer has in his hands is far greater than the sword Ikki wields.
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He will be slaughtered both ways
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Uhm, ikki tells him he really admires his skill and proceeds to literally poke him once.
Never bring a knife to a fist fight.
Never bring a knife to a fist fight.
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Not how it works, in a totally and completely equalized stats matchup, the reaction time is the exact same, say: 120ms and 80ms to unconscious reactions, that means that if CB has to deal with a sword swing velocity:
- Average: 72 km/h for the sword tip, slightly slower for the rest, the tip is faster.
- DO NOTE, the time differs as he uses the lenght of a medieval sword, not a katana, said sword had a lenght of 1.1m added to the man arm's lenght in an angle of 64 grades).
I will assume Ikki's katana is 90cm lenght wise(unless there is an official size) and Ikki's arm lenght is the one of an average man: 0.63m.
- If so the radius is 1.53m.
Swinged by someone with the same strenght as his means that the swing will have more strenght than the CB will ever be able to achieve(F=ma and what not). The starting distance and equalized physical strenght..., this is not fair. If the boxer strikes, Ikki can fence with an edged weapon, the same force strike of the boxer will now turn against him.
I would say tho, that I have seen some ridiculous reach for boxers. Either way, distance ain't doing favor unless they start at grappling range. Which is one of the few winning conditions that an unharmed individual could have to someone wielding a sword. In grapple, I would favor the one with same strenght but heavier(which would be CB, since afaik some boxers had gigantism and etc).
Citing the rules:
All the flowery statements is cute and all, but weapons will most of the times, always triumph. And for all the experience they had, that is in H2H, not against swords. And even someone experienced in sword fightning knows the almost certain impossiblity of winning while empty handed. RL ain't an anime.
Side note, assuming the boxer has the fastest hit speed recorded, he should technically have a similar speed of the average katana swing
TL;DR: Assuming Ikki swings as fast as an average man despite having the same stats as composite boxer, his average swing is as fast as the fastest speed of a boxer ever recorder, added on the fact THAT HE CARRIES A ******* SWORD means it's gg for Ikki's side.
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Range of a sword is a massive advantage in a fist fight. If Ikki uses it to create any space at all composite boxer just gets picked apart.
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I believe this thread is talking about IRL boxers.
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? You said the boxer evades a sword strike, which is not how it works, skill is good and all, but he is not able to react to the swing and as so he literally can't do anything and he is not even able to block it either. The moment he enters in range, since it's the only mean he has to do damage, it's done. A sword is literally a game changer, no, a game ender.
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As a skill battle, perfect vision is so vastly above anything composite boxer would have it's not funny. As an actual fight stats equalised, Ikki also murders.
Side note I also cant stand Ikki
Side note I also cant stand Ikki
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Funny how I don't even need to argue for ppl to point out how dumb it is to have a sword fight against fists regardless of who is using them. There's a reason ppl go to war with weapons and don't just fist fight it out.
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People be like 'but its not a real fight its a skill fight'
also composite boxer dodges a sword strike faster then he can react/move
also composite boxer dodges a sword strike faster then he can react/move
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This is the literal same as saying "Boxer takes time to throw hands, you know stats equalized". As I assume they both spawn in an A pose with their equipment due to SBA and at the distance of the one with most range(Ikki). He has enough time, either way all he needs is to direct the sword at CB, even the slightest injury that his weapon causes means he wins.
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Either give boxer a sword too, or make Ikki use his hands. Can't really debate skill in this situation, it'd be like "Solid Snake vs comp boxer, skillz only", but Snake whips out his m16 and begins mowing the boxer down, like bruh.
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Eh? Hitting with a sword is slower than punching, because you wknow... weigth
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A sword will move faster due to angular velocity. Weight only causes issues with acceleration (it will accelerate slower), but it's not a very significant difference.
And that's considering normal humans, not Ikki who doesn't need to accelerate to begin with and just goes max speed off the bat.
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stats equal yujiro neggs both at once
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If you wanna make the thread to upgrade ikki go for it.High 3-A LS
Stats equalized doesn't mean angular velocity is thrown off the window. The sword will still move faster.
Did you read what I said though? Even for normal people the ramp up isn't a big deal, again the reason melee weapons were invented in the first place. For "normal" people.
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