ArachDusa
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I've always been confused about Gogeta's profile listing his Super Saiyan Blue form being "possibly" 2-C since this addition was made to his profile, especially since it was saying Gogeta Blue easily defeated Legendary Super Saiyan Broly who is stronger than Beerus, even though neither LSS Broly nor Beerus were listed as 2-C or possibly 2-C. When I first saw it, I thought "oh, they probably changed Broly's tier and then changed it back and forgot to change Gogeta's, I'm sure they'll change it later so I don't need to point this out." That was several weeks ago and so far it hasn't changed. I was just about to make a thread asking why it is so, but then, completely on accident, I noticed the note in Gogeta's page explaining why he might be 2-C. Whoops.
But I still have a few questions. If Gogeta being significantly stronger than someone who is considered stronger than Beerus is grounds to consider the possibility that he's twice as strong as Beerus, then shouldn't Jire also have this rating? Statements about Jiren being stronger than a God of Destruction are far more consistent than the ones about Broly, and many of them came from before Jiren showcased even a fraction of his true power. He is also far above various other universal characters, again, before even unleashing his full power. And on top of that, Goku achieves Ultra Instinct and stomps Jiren, who then breaks his limits and surpasses Goku again. That looks like a lot more evidence for Ultra Instinct Goku and Jiren being 2-C than Broly.
Knowing all this, I think we should either remove the "Possibly 2-C" part from Gogeta's profile or add a similar note to at least Limit Breaker Jiren and Ultra Instinct Goku, even if there is a good argument for Gogeta being stronger than Goku and Jiren. If anyone thinks otherwise, they're welcome to explain why.
But I still have a few questions. If Gogeta being significantly stronger than someone who is considered stronger than Beerus is grounds to consider the possibility that he's twice as strong as Beerus, then shouldn't Jire also have this rating? Statements about Jiren being stronger than a God of Destruction are far more consistent than the ones about Broly, and many of them came from before Jiren showcased even a fraction of his true power. He is also far above various other universal characters, again, before even unleashing his full power. And on top of that, Goku achieves Ultra Instinct and stomps Jiren, who then breaks his limits and surpasses Goku again. That looks like a lot more evidence for Ultra Instinct Goku and Jiren being 2-C than Broly.
Knowing all this, I think we should either remove the "Possibly 2-C" part from Gogeta's profile or add a similar note to at least Limit Breaker Jiren and Ultra Instinct Goku, even if there is a good argument for Gogeta being stronger than Goku and Jiren. If anyone thinks otherwise, they're welcome to explain why.