Chara being 2-B before and during the fight with Sans

[Mickey1940]

Chara has no multiversal feats before reaching their "absolute", yet people seem to think they are multiversal. Someone care to explain?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Didn't Chara fight Sans directly before maxing out? I think that would probably entail she was around peak power when fighting Sans.

 

[Mickey1940]

She was lv. 19, so yeah, but lv. 20 Frisk =/= the Chara that Kills frisk. They are 2 different entities.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

She was lv. 19, so yeah, but lv. 20 Frisk =/= the Chara that Kills frisk. They are 2 different entities.

she fought sans in post genocide rout as well, and was able to manifest itself

 

[Mickey1940]

what do you mean?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

what do you mean?

you do 2 genocide runs, and in both sans is reckting them

chara dids affect the battle, theyre last blow was the killing blow

 

[Mickey1940]

Yeah, but Chara restores the multiverse before the 2nd genocide run, Chara isn't the one who actually fights Sans. In both instances, Frisk directly fights Sans, not Chara. the killing blow was caused when Chara "posseses" the player, but that's not Chara's stats, that's Frisk's stats.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Yeah, but Chara restores the multiverse before the 2nd genocide run, Chara isn't the one who actually fights Sans. In both instances, Frisk directly fights Sans, not Chara. the killing blow was caused when Chara "posseses" the player, but that's not Chara's stats, that's Frisk's stats.

but chara now owns the soul

 

[Mickey1940]

Yeah, but that's Frisk's physical body that fights Sans. That's like saying that you get into a fight with a random street thug, but you say that The One Above All is fighting the thug because TOAA owns and encompasses the entire universe, and therefore you. Chara basically becomes God, but that doesn't mean that everyone in their domain has the same abilities as the god in question.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

but the body doesent matter, the soul does

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

the soul is directly charas, and sans can still destroy it ignoring its resistence, please do invite azatoth to discuss here, its been already discussed and im not native so i cant really explain it that well

 

[Mickey1940]

how do you invite?

 

[Mickey1940]

All azatoth needs to do is log in, find the link, and click on it

 

[Mickey1940]

Frisk is the one who actually attacks Sans, not Chara. Chara doesn't actually do anything in that fight, it just eggs them on. It's not like Chara powers up Frisk or anything

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

again, ask azatoth