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Not sure what's to disagree with, this is some of the most blatant low 1-C evidence ever
But I'll wait if I can be swayed the other way
But I'll wait if I can be swayed the other way
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Chaos Force Low 1-C Upgrade?
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Not to mention other Low 1-C stuff unrelated to the Chaos Force but it's unnecessary to bring those up atm.
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Why are you getting off-site people to debate instead of your own points? Also stop announcing what you will do, it clutters the thread
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cyber is someone from here lol. He has stuff he has to say.
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Hopefully not 2016 arguments kek
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Just popping into say I agree with the upgrade to low 1-C big surprise I know.
The evidence is pretty clean cut plus the addition low 1-C stuff from other non-chaos force sources like @ElixirBlue already mentioned but that's for later.
The cosmology pretty much meets all the criteria for low 1-C according to this site's standards so I don't see any legitimate argument to contest this imho outside preconceptions and semantics.
The evidence is pretty clean cut plus the addition low 1-C stuff from other non-chaos force sources like @ElixirBlue already mentioned but that's for later.
The cosmology pretty much meets all the criteria for low 1-C according to this site's standards so I don't see any legitimate argument to contest this imho outside preconceptions and semantics.
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Yeah this makes sense tbh, I haven't fully read the Archie Sonic comic but based off the info I do know and the scans giving by this thread I think it's pretty clear cut Low 1-C.
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Also, shouldn't we get more mods to comment here? I know I want to see the counters, but still
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Yes I agree
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Disagreed with the upgrade
To be honest I am not how some claims like "transcending" or "being in higher plane of reality" even remotely implies Low 1-C or the fact that chaos force has never shown reality-fiction difference with the infinite universes or that it trascends infinite multiverse to such extent that no amount of infinite stacked over multiverse can reach it.As per the tiering system,for Low 1-C simply transcending statement alone doesn't suffice nor does transcendence to unknown degree.Transcendence to Inaccessible degree or that of reality-fiction is needed for low 1-C.All the evidences listed so far just points towards higher 2-A I am sorry.
It would be weird for this upgrade to pass through considering that I am very sure that vs battle wiki is very strict with the transcendence in relation to being used for Low 1-C.So yeah thats my input for this thread.
To be honest I am not how some claims like "transcending" or "being in higher plane of reality" even remotely implies Low 1-C or the fact that chaos force has never shown reality-fiction difference with the infinite universes or that it trascends infinite multiverse to such extent that no amount of infinite stacked over multiverse can reach it.As per the tiering system,for Low 1-C simply transcending statement alone doesn't suffice nor does transcendence to unknown degree.Transcendence to Inaccessible degree or that of reality-fiction is needed for low 1-C.All the evidences listed so far just points towards higher 2-A I am sorry.
It would be weird for this upgrade to pass through considering that I am very sure that vs battle wiki is very strict with the transcendence in relation to being used for Low 1-C.So yeah thats my input for this thread.
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I'll wait to see ShrekAnakin's arguments first.
Also hello there My Area, it seems you have arrived.
Also hello there My Area, it seems you have arrived.
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Oh, hello My Area, you finally wake up huh
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Dont want to derail but yeah you literally came after my comment and Bernkastelll came just before my comment lol
I was awake before XD
Lets talk somewhere else in order to avoid further derailing this thread.
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Mathias who used Chaos Energy stated that he views time concepts as irrelevant.
The Deceased members of the Brotherhood legit stated that they can not die as they evolved into a higher plane of existence when they are with the Chaos Force meaning that 4-D or lower can't do nothing to someone who is one with the entire Chaos Force since it is legit stated that again evolved into a higher dimensional plane of existence and if we assume that they can die from a 4-D plane and etc, that is pulling a massive headcanon.
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It doesnt means Low 1-C, it just means that....he views the concept of time as irrelevant, which can means that time does not affect him
So, they can't die because when they are envolved on it because The Chaos Force doesnt allow? Great, that's immortality type 8, it doesnt means Low 1-C, it would means Low 1-C if somehow it was stated that they can't interact/affect/see or something like that with them because they are transcendental to them
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No because it literally said that they evolved on a higher plane which legit means that 3-D or 4-D beings can't touch them because they exist on a higher plane of existence and plus Chaos Knuckles stated that his Grandfather can't even see him, and he quotes (''Why can't my Grandfather Sabre see me do this?)
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Higher planes aren't enough to Low 1-C, Madoka Magica is a example of it, and ur scan to the characters not being able to see doesnt means nothing, because we directly can see that they are exactly on the same place as the grandfather, which can justify that when someone reaches the chaos force, they become abstract, or maybe even less than it, but none of these things justify a Low 1-C argument, and the context of it pretty much is similar to Stands being able to affect with people but people can't affect/interact with stands
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I don't see any evidence that would warrant "likely low 1-C", I can potentially see a "possibly low 1-C".
The evidence as presented in the CRT doesn't prove an inaccessible difference between a low 2-C structure and a low 1-C IMO.
The evidence as presented in the CRT doesn't prove an inaccessible difference between a low 2-C structure and a low 1-C IMO.
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when it is repeated multiple times that it transcends, being a higher plane or things of the like repeatedly im pretty sure it does, also you dont need rf to get to low 1-C and yes when it says higher plane and beyond space and time it does show that it transcends the infinite multiverse hell it is even described as far beyond comprehension which in context with everything else is most definitely more proof of low 1-C.
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I can't see possibly low 1-C on it, I just agree some hours ago cuz I like Sonic verse, and if I said No, they will ask the reasons, so, to avoid it, I just agree, but after the comments, I feel that I needed to answer it
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Outside space and time its different than Transcend it
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It need, in the same way that 3-D beings like IRL humans see fictional verses as 2-D, to be 5-D, u need RF in comparison to 4-D things, and vague things like Beyond space and time aren't enough to it, because the scans are also vague, and as I showed previously, it does not meet the things enough to 5-D
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Uh, these are the only arguments to Low 1-C Archie Sonic? If yes, that is a big no
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The same arguments from the first thread? The first thread was rejected? I have no idea
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Awww I was so excited tho
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That's not, outside space and time isnt even close to transcend it, and RF statements/feats is needed to show that something is Higher D, which isnt the case that is shown here
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We should downgrade The Morphing Grid from Power Rangers to 2-A by this logic because it is also a higher plane of existence beyond time and space similar to the Chaos Force.
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I have no idea of Power Rangers works and I didnt even saw their scans, so, I don't care to it, u can make a CRT to downgrade it if u want
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it is not the actual full on evidence, it is supporting evidence to help prove the point that the characters are being literal when they say they transcend or exiting in a higher plane of reality are literal, one more on the rf point, once again the entirety of gl just says no to that idea cause they are high 1-C without the need for any rf
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Except that the Scan doesnt show it, they are in the exactly same place as the grandfather, but grandfather just can't see them, similar to how Stands works in JJBA, that's not evidence to Low 1-C
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Something that is Higher Dimensional in default already have RF, and what is GL? I have no idea
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gurren lagann which has absolutely no mentions of rf but is High 1-C
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Gurren Lagann uses branes, so it's valid.
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Lmao
Stands in Jojo never states they are in higher planes of existence that compassion is kinda bad no offense.
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Lmao same, was gonna agree cuz I'm loving the Archie Comics rn, but after what you and My Area said I'm feeling conflicted.
Also, I want to see ShrekAnakin's arguments.
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I'm not talking about the higher planes, im talking about they staying in the same place but normal ppl can't see it, thats exactly what the scan that they showed has
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