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So currently basically the entire verse scales off of two speed feats that are taken out of context or very highballed and assumptive
This thread is hopefully going to change that
The first and easiest
Second it assumes that she does all this movement in this time based on her blitzing the initial devil hunters which is a very big assumption given there was no one there to observe her every step of the way
Also both Agnaa and KLOL already had a discussion in the comments of the calc on why it should be removed
As you can see there's no proof he raised his wing in the time it takes the bullet to reach him
There are no movement lines to suggest movement in the panel he is shown blocking in
He also has ample time to respond in the time it takes the guy to pull the trigger
Since we don't see the panel where the movement happens so were left to assume that he completed this movement sometime between the time it took the man to raise his gun
Leaving both interpretations of the scene equally valid... except for one thing
We see in the anime the exact scene where the Angel Devil starts his movement
As you can see above the anime shows him completing his wing shield before the guy fires his gun
I'm pretty sure in cases like these where between panel context is missing, anime can be used in place of the manga
Even if that isn't the case I believe the lower end should be used both because that's what we usually go with on the wiki and because it's more consistent in verse where Guns are considered something Devil Hunter tier characters can't deal with and something that even Top Tiers like Hybrid Denji have trouble with
This thread is hopefully going to change that
The first and easiest
Quanxi's Blitz
First off it uses the old "Humans can perceive images in as little as 13 milliseconds" study which has long been debunked as this was with trained fighter pilots in a dark room being flashing white light on a wall. This method of human reaction time has been removed from all relevant calcs and this is no different.Second it assumes that she does all this movement in this time based on her blitzing the initial devil hunters which is a very big assumption given there was no one there to observe her every step of the way
Also both Agnaa and KLOL already had a discussion in the comments of the calc on why it should be removed
Angel's Block
This one might be more controversial so I'm gonna post the relevant panels for clarityAs you can see there's no proof he raised his wing in the time it takes the bullet to reach him
There are no movement lines to suggest movement in the panel he is shown blocking in
He also has ample time to respond in the time it takes the guy to pull the trigger
Since we don't see the panel where the movement happens so were left to assume that he completed this movement sometime between the time it took the man to raise his gun
Leaving both interpretations of the scene equally valid... except for one thing
We see in the anime the exact scene where the Angel Devil starts his movement
As you can see above the anime shows him completing his wing shield before the guy fires his gun
I'm pretty sure in cases like these where between panel context is missing, anime can be used in place of the manga
Even if that isn't the case I believe the lower end should be used both because that's what we usually go with on the wiki and because it's more consistent in verse where Guns are considered something Devil Hunter tier characters can't deal with and something that even Top Tiers like Hybrid Denji have trouble with