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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

That looks less like Pochita hitting the bang aside, and more like the bang hitting Pochita's guard/chainsaws and deflecting off to the side (especially considering that he goes flying), which means he wouldn't scale to its speed. (Hitting a bullet with a shield vs. being stationary and a bullet bouncing off of one's shield)
That's not what happened in those panels. Pochita instantly raised his left arm to block after Yoru fired her shot. If we do indeed decide to compare the speed of these shots to Makima's "bang," the shot should have been traveling around Mach 4000, as Pochita could even make the effort to attempt to block. He is clearly faster than that attack.
 
In the previous chapter, Pochita was facing the opposite direction, asking for blood. In the current chapter, mere moments before the bullet hit him, he was able to turn around and acknowledge the incoming projectile, even lowering the hand he was using to wave the sign asking for blood donors. He turned to his left to literally see the bullet coming towards him. Plus, there was no sound effect for the bullet when it reached Pochita. In fact, given the speed at which the bullet was moving, sound (in general) would not have reached him in time for him to acknowledge it. What we see him doing in the panel is purely reacting to the incoming bullet.
...Are we looking at the same panels? He's still facing forward, Pochita isn't turned at all.
The mere act of turning his body left to observe the projectile while he was off-guard is enough.
No it isn't.
That's not what happened in those panels. Pochita instantly raised his left arm to block after Yoru fired her shot. If we do indeed decide to compare the speed of these shots to Makima's "bang," the shot should have been traveling around Mach 4000, as Pochita could even make the effort to attempt to block. He is clearly faster than that attack.
Okay that part's fair, although he scales to the projectile for blocking it not for deflecting it.
 
...Are we looking at the same panels? He's still facing forward, Pochita isn't turned at all.
Honestly, I see your interpretation, therefore I wont push my stance and leave scaling be until next chapter.
No it isn't.
If it were the case (not that it is the case) that we saw him turn around as the bullet was traveling towards him after busting through the building, then yes, the scaling would be very much plausible.
Okay that part's fair, although he scales to the projectile for blocking it not for deflecting it.
Honestly, I don't see it as Pochita aiming to deflect the attack on purpose, rather, it's him blocking, and the attack conveniently deflects off his chainsaws, causing the recoil to send him flying. So yeah, I agree.
 
personally i think that panel was supposed to be pochita noticing the bullet and beginning to turn around right as it reaches him

but i dont think we know that with enough certainty for pochita to scale
 
Would info type 2 manip bypass makima's contract?
This question is way too vague, the answer can be yes or no since the use Type 2 Info Manip can vary so much.

Assuming the extreme end, if someone erased the fundamental information that makes her up, she'd die.
 
Yes, I mean somebody erasing the fundamental information that makes her up. Also, another question, is it confirmed in the manga that the order of the four horseman's power is control < war < famine < death?
 
Yes, I mean somebody erasing the fundamental information that makes her up. Also, another question, is it confirmed in the manga that the order of the four horseman's power is control < war < famine < death?
Nah, that's just the order of their appearances.

Considering Fami's trying to buff War to stop Death, peak power-wise it might be Conquest >=< Famine <<< War >=< Death. (By Peak I mean like, at the height of WWII when everything's terrible and atrocities are everywhere and fear is high)
 
...Technically, since there is a Cosmos Devil (since Makima killed the Cosmos Fiend), couldn't Pochita get 3-A Environmental Destruction via eating the Cosmos Devil?

In fact, since Cosmo does a Kamehameha when Halloween'ing Santa, this implies that Dragon Ball exists in Chainsaw Man. And since the Zombie Devil showed that human fear of fictional things can make devils, this means that a Goku Devil could exist. Therefore, could Pochita solo Goku via eating the Goku Devil?
 
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...Technically, since there is a Cosmos Devil (since Makima killed the Cosmos Fiend), couldn't Pochita get 3-A Environmental Destruction via eating the Cosmos Devil?

In fact, since Cosmo does a Kamehameha when Halloween'ing Santa, this implies that Dragon Ball exists in Chainsaw Man. And since the Zombie Devil showed that human fear of fictional things can make devils, this means that a Goku Devil could exist. Therefore, could Pochita solo Goku via eating the Goku Devil?
Pochita sees Goku as fiction (just like Yuji does)
 
...Technically, since there is a Cosmos Devil (since Makima killed the Cosmos Fiend), couldn't Pochita get 3-A Environmental Destruction via eating the Cosmos Devil?

In fact, since Cosmo does a Kamehameha when Halloween'ing Santa, this implies that Dragon Ball exists in Chainsaw Man. And since the Zombie Devil showed that human fear of fictional things can make devils, this means that a Goku Devil could exist. Therefore, could Pochita solo Goku via eating the Goku Devil?
the fact that
the entire universe
still exists leads me to believe pochita has not eaten the cosmos devil
and they just died/respawned on their own
 
Hell I would say there is nothing indicating Fami is equal to Makima just yet

At best she gets somewhat relative scaling for being a Horseman

I am sad how Fujimoto underutilizes bae 😔
 
the fact that
the entire universe
still exists leads me to believe pochita has not eaten the cosmos devil
and they just died/respawned on their own
I don't think Pochita has eaten Cosmos right now, I was wondering about the possibility of him eating Cosmos and what that would mean.
Hell I would say there is nothing indicating Fami is equal to Makima just yet
I mean in terms of Manipulation, she's definitely getting there. Pochita got amped and War's ridiculously broken now too, and they might get even stronger depending on what happens next, so her plan's working great so far.
At best she gets somewhat relative scaling for being a Horseman

I am sad how Fujimoto underutilizes bae 😔
"I'm our trump card. Trump cards get saved for last."
 
Pochita can scale extremely high depends on whatever exists in that universe. Screw Cosmos devil, eating the eternity devil (the Fami version) would make Pochita High 3-A due to it having an infinite dimension.

Hell, time 100% exists thanks to future devil, so Pochita could just eat the space-time devil and get to Low 2-C, maybe canonically could eat the future devil + cosmos devil at the same time and achieve the same effect.

Hell, he could get to possibly outer on other wiki by erasing platonic concepts
 
I've been calling it for ages now

I am of the belief Full Power Death Devil will scale to Low 2-C and Denji/Pochita will scale to her

Probably Yoru/Asa will now too
 
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