Chainsaw Man discussion thread

[Zabazab]

Fujimoto basically completely gave up on satisfying the weekly readers and is looking for Part 2 to just be an enormous final payoff in the finale– which is normally career-suicide for a mangaka, but CSM's sheer popularity and jump+ schedule lets him get away with it.

Basically, Part 2 is one big "what the **** is happening" until the finale, where (assuming Fujimoto maintains his skill in writing) we all collectively break down in tears and declare Part 2 as utter kino surpassing Part 1.

 

[SlendVeny]

Fujimoto basically completely gave up on satisfying the weekly readers

W

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Fujimoto basically completely gave up on satisfying the weekly readers

Based, **** the weekly manga grind deathmarch and **** any and all entitled fans that enable it

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Fujimoto basically completely gave up on satisfying the weekly readers and is looking for Part 2 to just be an enormous final payoff in the finale– which is normally career-suicide for a mangaka, but CSM's sheer popularity and jump+ schedule lets him get away with it.

Basically, Part 2 is one big "what the **** is happening" until the finale, where (assuming Fujimoto maintains his skill in writing) we all collectively break down in tears and declare Part 2 as utter kino surpassing Part 1.

Chainsaw Man would work perfect as a 3 parter


Part 1 - What we got

Part 2 - In the final Denji dies and wakes up in hell

Part 3 - Hell arc ( Denji mastering Pochita's power/Finding Blood Devil again plotline etc while Asa trying to stop prophecy on Earth with Nayuta-if still alive- and then the finale with Death Devil after Denji and Power get back )

 

[Homie890]

"grind deathmarch" sounds like an edgy rock band name from 1983

 

[Epiccheev]

Chainsaw Man would work perfect as a 3 parter


Part 1 - What we got

Part 2 - In the final Denji dies and wakes up in hell

Part 3 - Hell arc ( Denji mastering Pochita's power/Finding Blood Devil again plotline etc while Asa trying to stop prophecy on Earth with Nayuta-if still alive- and then the finale with Death Devil after Denji and Power get back )

In Part 3 power levels are measured by PP. (Pochita Points)

 

[AnimesFreak2]

In Part 3 power levels are measured by PP. (Pochita Points)

Scaling CSM Top Tiers is cancer due to how vague Fujimoto's stuff is lmao

Also durability being kind of inconsistent af ( Makima the worst offender ) in CSM

 

[Epiccheev]

CSM characters can tank a building sized explosion but get pierced normally by 9-C bullets

 

[azontr]

Piercing damage solos fiction

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I mean, piercing durability and being able to tank punches and explosions is a bit different. Like Wonder Woman an’t bullet proof but she can take blows from doomsday

 

[Zabazab]

Denji (gets blasted through multiple building, stabbed by protesters with spears)

Also there is no way Wonder Woman is not bulletproof

 

[SlendVeny]

Also there is no way Wonder Woman is not bulletproof

Why else would she be using the bracelets to block them?

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Also there is no way Wonder Woman is not bulletproof

She’s not, she even explained why

Spoiler

 

[Zabazab]

She’s not, she even explained why

This is ass and I reject it completely

 

[AnimesFreak2]

She’s not, she even explained why

Spoiler

The writers trying to bullshit why Diana needs to be weak for plot

If I am writing a series like Justice League where these guys fight villains who can casually nuke planets, I am never having them be harmed by bullets or similar shit in any fashion whatsoever

 

[SheevShezarrine]

CSM characters can tank a building sized explosion but get pierced normally by 9-C bullets

Chump change compared to LoTR. Dudes like Fingolfin and Fëanor scale to beings of cosmic might with Tier 3 power but can still be consistently wounded with 9-C orc arrows

 

[Zabazab]

Yoru wants to make Chainsaw Man vomit Nuclear Weapons back up. Nayuta makes Justice vomit, which intrigues Famine. Famine immediately tries to recruit Nayuta but is rejected. Famine can turn the starved into her pawns. On the day that the Chainsaw Man War starts, Nayuta says she's starving. The Sushi Head is missing the mole and vanished alongside Famine upon the release of Pochita. Famine's ultimate goal, is to make Yoru able to beat Death.

So: Famine is using Nayuta as her pawn to force Pochita to vomit up the Names he has erased, thereby empowering War through concepts like WWII, Nazis, and of course Nuclear Weapons.

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

This is ass and I reject it completely

The writers trying to bullshit why Diana needs to be weak for plot

If I am writing a series like Justice League where these guys fight villains who can casually nuke planets, I am never having them be harmed by bullets or similar shit in any fashion whatsoever

It is what it guys, being super durable doesn’t inherently translate to being bullet proof. Spider-man is super tough but if you put a gun to the back of his head bro’s cooked.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

She’s not, she even explained why

Spoiler

I'm pretty sure the psi of a punch from Superman or Darkseid drastically exceeds that of an arrowhead but aight

 

[SheevShezarrine]

It is what it guys, being super durable doesn’t inherently translate to being bullet proof. Spider-man is super tough but if you put a gun to the back of his head bro’s cooked.

Spider-Man no-diffs the Abraham Lincoln Challenge I'm afraid

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

I'm pretty sure the psi of a punch from Superman or Darkseid drastically exceeds that of an arrowhead but aight

It’s not the amount of force it’s how it’s applied.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

It’s not the amount of force it’s how it’s applied.

I'm aware, and that's why I said PSI. It's pounds of force applied over a certain area; the physics exploit that piercing attacks use to deal damage. And I'm saying that dudes who can destroy moons at the bare minimum with their punches would be orders of magnitude more formidable in that regard than a regular arrowhead

 

[The_one_you_least_expect]

Spider-Man no-diffs the Abraham Lincoln Challenge I'm afraid

I’m pretty sure his been shot

I'm aware, and that's why I said PSI. It's pounds of force applied over a certain area; the physics exploit that piercing attacks use to deal damage. And I'm saying that dudes who can destroy moons at the bare minimum with their punches would be orders of magnitude more formidable in that regard than a regular arrowhead

Fair, but when it comes to chainsaw man I don’t think this should be to much of an uproar on getting stabbed

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I mean, piercing durability and being able to tank punches and explosions is a bit different. Like Wonder Woman an’t bullet proof but she can take blows from doomsday

Yeah, but thats just bullshit. If she can tank a supernova of course she should tank a bullet

 

[SlendVeny]

The writers trying to bullshit why Diana needs to be weak for plot

If I am writing a series like Justice League where these guys fight villains who can casually nuke planets, I am never having them be harmed by bullets or similar shit in any fashion whatsoever

Fictional characters are more vulnerable to piercing damage than they should be, and that's kind of just how it is. Look at Whitebeard getting shot and stabbed repeatedly in One Piece, a series where certain far weaker characters are bulletproof. Or Frieza and Nappa vs the Kienzan.

Essentially, even if it doesn't make sense, skin is just easier to pierce and slash because fodders couldn't hurt them otherwise, and also it'd be kinda weird for most writers. Plus, it's meant to hype up other characters. Unless characters are stated to have a special type of skin or defense, the outliers just have to be accepted.

 

[SheevShezarrine]

Fictional characters are more vulnerable to piercing damage than they should be, and that's kind of just how it is. Look at Whitebeard getting shot and stabbed repeatedly in One Piece, a series where certain far weaker characters are bulletproof. Or Frieza and Nappa vs the Kienzan.

Kienzan is much more forgivable because the gap is far smaller and also this is metaphysical life-force that may or may not also be superheated plasma if you believe MatPat, plus the cutting surface is considerably smaller than the striking surface of say a 9mm round so that's 2-3 or 4 things it's got over some pleb chunk of lead

 

[AnimesFreak2]

Fictional characters are more vulnerable to piercing damage than they should be, and that's kind of just how it is. Look at Whitebeard getting shot and stabbed repeatedly in One Piece, a series where certain far weaker characters are bulletproof. Or Frieza and Nappa vs the Kienzan.

Essentially, even if it doesn't make sense, skin is just easier to pierce and slash because fodders couldn't hurt them otherwise, and also it'd be kinda weird for most writers. Plus, it's meant to hype up other characters. Unless characters are stated to have a special type of skin or defense, the outliers just have to be accepted.

tbf in the Whitebeard example bro was literally on his deathbed....literal sick dying old man who right up until that war started...was weakened in old age to the point of being hooked on actual life support and tended to by a harem of nurses

 

[SlendVeny]

tbf in the Whitebeard example bro was literally on his deathbed....literal sick dying old man who right up until that war started...was weakened in old age to the point of being hooked on actual life support and tended to by a harem of nurses

Still 5-C(6-A for downplayers), and the bullets are round.

 

[GunshyFever]

Scaling CSM Top Tiers is cancer due to how vague Fujimoto's stuff is lmao

It's not that difficult, they just scale off the Gun Devil

Also durability being kind of inconsistent af ( Makima the worst offender ) in CSM

Piercing and Blunt durability are treated differently in chainsaw man. They have no resistance to piercing objects but rather blunt ones.

 

[GunshyFever]

Yoru wants to make Chainsaw Man vomit Nuclear Weapons back up. Nayuta makes Justice vomit, which intrigues Famine. Famine immediately tries to recruit Nayuta but is rejected. Famine can turn the starved into her pawns. On the day that the Chainsaw Man War starts, Nayuta says she's starving. The Sushi Head is missing the mole and vanished alongside Famine upon the release of Pochita. Famine's ultimate goal, is to make Yoru able to beat Death.

So: Famine is using Nayuta as her pawn to force Pochita to vomit up the Names he has erased, thereby empowering War through concepts like WWII, Nazis, and of course Nuclear Weapons.

I would normally look at this as cope, but this actually makes sense.

 

[Zabazab]

I would normally look at this as cope, but this actually makes sense.

Yoru Nation cooked

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

New chapter was neat, I hope to god Fujimoto lets Pochita one-shot all the fodders and doesn't pull another Spear Hybrid moment.

 

[GunshyFever]

The Spear Hybrid moment is justified, but, without a doubt they are cooked. They look completely inferior to the weapon Hybrids.

 

[Zabazab]

Fact: Spears negate durability. Just spears though.

 

[FuriousFieryFist]

Nah, It's just the power of the true supreme being of the verse, the piercing damage devil.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

New chapter boys

 

[koopa3144]

Welp rip ears ig

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Welp rip ears ig

Fr did bro get tired of drawing them

 

[Puppet43]

Spoiler: New Chapter Spoilers

All new demons/ hybrids just lasted 3 panels, they are so cooked