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Chainsaw Man discussion thread

Like, seriously, Makima's control kinda sucks, If she has to defeat someone at Reze's level to be able to view herself as superior then it's practically unusable in vs matches
 
Reze being firstly non-human, and secondly the literal Bomb Devil, is most definitely why she didn't just instantly control her. Humans are gg'd by her mindset, at least.

I'm sure the non-hybrid Bomb Devil is on the same level as the Gun Devil, considering its status and Beam's words.
 
The only argument that matters is if Makima can get past infinity and if her contract transfers mental attacks as well (We have that scene with the Cosmos devil which at least somewhat implies it might).
 
The only argument that matters is if Makima can get past infinity and if her contract transfers mental attacks as well (We have that scene with the Cosmos devil which at least somewhat implies it might).
If Makima doesn't control Gojo right off the bat, she will most likely lose to an unrestricted hollow purple later on.
 
I'm sure the non-hybrid Bomb Devil is on the same level as the Gun Devil, considering its status and Beam's words.

Doubt

It seems kind of hammered in that the Gun Devil is the ultimate devil outside the 4 Horseman/Primal Fears/Pochita and Angel at full potential
 
Gun Devil got its ass beat within 5 minutes of showing up on earth, and we know for sure there are no Primals on earth.

I don't think that argument can be used as we don't even know how the Gun Devil was defeated ( though it seems implied it might've been Pochita )
 
I may have forgotten, but Pochita's never said anything about his erasure ability has he?
Also I won't say this is an outright contradiction, but how is Pochita able to throw up the devils if he erases them? This could just support him being the Life Devil along with the umbilical cord stuff though.
I’m perhaps that he needs to actually digest them for them to completely go away. If someone makes him vomit the devil out they can come back
 
I don't think that argument can be used as we don't even know how the Gun Devil was defeated ( though it seems implied it might've been Pochita )
We know it was beaten unconscious by an unknown entity, most certainly a devil. Pochita can't have done it because he was either in hell of living with Denji.
 
I'm sure the non-hybrid Bomb Devil is on the same level as the Gun Devil, considering its status and Beam's words.
The Gun Devil is only as strong as it is because so many people bought guns as an anti-devil countermeasure, and primarily due to a notable terrorist attack using guns.

They specifically made laws to nerf the Gun Devil after it was captured. And note, the absolutely terrifying performance of the Gun Devil was only 20% of it, and it killed Aki and Makima, and survived long enough to possess his corpse. Meanwhile, Gun Fiend Aki, created using a near-dead 20% Gun Devil, was strong enough that Denji was in serious danger, and thus is not all that far off from Reze.
 
bombs are scarier than guns.
Okay so why isn't the Spider Devil stronger than the Gun Devil, huh. You can't equate your irl fears to CSM, considering its whole world is ****** up. The USSR still exists in the late 90s, Hawaii is its own sovereign nation, and there used to be a mind shattering star. So no, in CSM, bombs are not scarier than guns.
 
The Gun Devil is only as strong as it is because so many people bought guns as an anti-devil countermeasure, and primarily due to a notable terrorist attack using guns.
That was its birth, yes. The Gun Devil is strong because guns are scary.

They specifically made laws to nerf the Gun Devil after it was captured. And note, the absolutely terrifying performance of the Gun Devil was only 20% of it, and it killed Aki and Makima, and survived long enough to possess his corpse. Meanwhile, Gun Fiend Aki, created using a near-dead 20% Gun Devil, was strong enough that Denji was in serious danger, and thus is not all that far off from Reze.
The gun laws are a myth, governments are actually trying to make people more scared of guns to power up their Gun Devil pieces.

And attempting to compare Fiends and Hybrids is a pointless endeavour. Pochita is stronger than the Gun, but Denji is weaker than Reze.
 
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And attempting to compare Fiends and Hybrids is a pointless endeavour. Pochita is stronger than the Gun, but Denji is weaker than Reze.
I mean, that's because she had a stronger base. And even then, she only had the advantage because physicals + explosions obviously do more damage than just physicals.

Furthermore, she had a bunch of training as an elite assassin, while the Gun Devil was possessing a corpse.
 
Okay so why isn't the Spider Devil stronger than the Gun Devil, huh. You can't equate your irl fears to CSM, considering its whole world is ****** up. The USSR still exists in the late 90s, Hawaii is its own sovereign nation, and there used to be a mind shattering star. So no, in CSM, bombs are not scarier than guns.
Including the fact that devils like the ww2 and nuclear weapons devil's could significantly reduce the fear of bombs. What makes Reze near Gun Devil level in fear is likely her being able to utilize her abilities effectively making her a pretty deadly opponent
 
Should Pochita have resistance to analytical prediction for decapitating the crocodile devil despite it already foreseeing/predicting his attack.
 
Okay so why isn't the Spider Devil stronger than the Gun Devil, huh. You can't equate your irl fears to CSM, considering its whole world is ****** up. The USSR still exists in the late 90s, Hawaii is its own sovereign nation, and there used to be a mind shattering star. So no, in CSM, bombs are not scarier than guns.
I mean even irl I would say guns are more scary, just because of the constant school shootings and overall gun violence within the world. Like sure "bombs" are scary and big but we normally don't see them in our life anymore, the ones who see it are soldiers, people who are already prepared and have seen explosions previously and became used to it.
 
Frequency isn't really related to potency. Spiders can be gross or give you a fright, but ultimately the imagery is at worst, disgusting. Devils like Violence, Bomb, Gun, Car, have inageru associated with being killed.
 
Frequency isn't really related to potency. Spiders can be gross or give you a fright, but ultimately the imagery is at worst, disgusting. Devils like Violence, Bomb, Gun, Car, have inageru associated with being killed.
Homie hasn't heard of venom.
 
Frequency isn't really related to potency. Spiders can be gross or give you a fright, but ultimately the imagery is at worst, disgusting. Devils like Violence, Bomb, Gun, Car, have inageru associated with being killed.
the brazilian wandering spider in my pocket:
 
The Violence Fiend was already pretty strong even for a fiend. He was able to keep up with Hybrids such as Reze who commended his strength (this is all while being suppressed by a lethal amount of poisonous gas). He would be behind the Angel Devil in physical strength, which is impressive considering he is a heavily nerfed fiend, while Angel is the strongest devil in Special Division 4 physically. And usually Devils are always stronger than fiends
 
The Violence Fiend was already pretty strong even for a fiend. He was able to keep up with Hybrids such as Reze who commended his strength (this is all while being suppressed by a lethal amount of poisonous gas). He would be behind the Angel Devil in physical strength, which is impressive considering he is a heavily nerfed fiend, while Angel is the strongest devil in Special Division 4 physically. And usually Devils are always stronger than fiends
Also survived technically 2 killing blow froms the Darkness Devil's casual attacks when he took of his mask

Where as Quanxi didn't survive even one ( Human Form )
 
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