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Celebrating 25k edits with chaos! Skill tries to eat pizza
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Nope, DMC1.
They're bosses in it and have the same core based biology.
They're bosses in it and have the same core based biology.
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DMC1 had the same characters
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Attacking spirits is NPI not soul haxFirephoenixearl said:
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Oh? Thought they were exclusive DMC5 characters.
But anyway, Ikki will be yeeting his soul at dante (his sword) so it will be pretty good resistance (it's specifically resistance to attacks).
But anyway, Ikki will be yeeting his soul at dante (his sword) so it will be pretty good resistance (it's specifically resistance to attacks).
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They originate from DMC1, and thats a pretty big plot point between them and V, but I guess you wouldn't know that.Firephoenixearl said:
And I highly doubt Ikki resists Planetary level soul hax.
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>Planetary level soul hax
>For slashing souls
Boi, how do you get planetary level soul hax from that? As i said, Ikki's soul is what will be clashing with Dante's sword all the time.
Besides Dante still has to land hits for that.
>For slashing souls
Boi, how do you get planetary level soul hax from that? As i said, Ikki's soul is what will be clashing with Dante's sword all the time.
Besides Dante still has to land hits for that.
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Void Mundus Soulhaxed Planets in the DMC2 Novel. His hax scales to the Demon World, which scales to the resistances of everyone who can pass through the demon world and not be turned into a soulless demon.
Dante's soulhax is able to overcome that resistance and kill Nightmare.
Dante's soulhax is able to overcome that resistance and kill Nightmare.
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That's durability not resistance, Hitting a disembodied soul is NPI too so unless Ikki has real resistance Dante will tap the sword and the soul hax does the restFirephoenixearl said:
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Ikki slashes with his soul, Dante thanks him for putting his soul out so liberally and giving him an easy win. Slashes and dead.Firephoenixearl said:
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Even barring that, Dante getting even remotely serious against Ikki means Dante pulls out his more hax abilities, like time stop.
The only way for Ikki to win would be to defeat Dante before Dante gets serious in the slightest, which Ikki can't do because of Dante's regen.
So yeah I'm voting Dante, if this isn't a stomp.
The only way for Ikki to win would be to defeat Dante before Dante gets serious in the slightest, which Ikki can't do because of Dante's regen.
So yeah I'm voting Dante, if this isn't a stomp.
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Inb4 Ikki is skilled enough to avoid Timestop
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Okay, so I guess things are going in this way:
Dante's Ap advantage here is important, almsot 3x on AP gap already makes a bit difference on a fight and while Ikki already avoided people with far more Ap than him, this doesn't mean he can just avoid Dante that easy. His feats are related to Stella, a characater that while more powerful than Dante, didn't had all of his tricks in a close fight to help her hit Ikki, mainly, Dante's DT, Time and teleportation hax.
Devil Trigger will give Dante passive fear hax but it will be useless as Ikki apparently has resistance, however, his resistance needs to be higher than baseline as Dante's fear hax can bypass layers of resistances against such ability, and if Ikki doesn't resist, this not only will slow him down (As it will make him shit his pants in fear), but also empower Dante even more, and DT on its own already makes him capable of one shoting someone comparable to his base power, which means DT Dante literally one shots Ikki, not only that, but DT also gives him a boost in speed, while not certain on how much, it boosts, which will give him an edge over Ikki in speed aswell. and this is specially dangerous as Ikki is already behind on AP by a really big gap
To add that, Dante can also slow and stop time which Ikki doesn't resist and doesn't really have a true answer against it, Teleportation is also something specially dangerous as Dante can just use it (while they are on close range) to close their distance gap and surprise him, the difference is that Ikki's Instinctive Reaction should cover that at least against Base Dante, however if this is used while on Quicksilver, DT or Bangle of Time, Ikki's reactions will be slower than Dante's attack which will make his IR less usable, up to useless on stopped time.
Shura should be able to destroy Dante as it is 10 times stronger than ikki's base abilities...I guess ? This certainly ends Base Dante and wounds DT Dante (Considering the usual gap for one shot on the wiki is 7,5X times, going by this, it shouldn't kill DT Dante, and no, I'm not saying that DT Dante is 7,5 times stronger, just to show how an one shot gap is actually something dangerous), however not only those amps in speed, time hax and teleportation are also usable for dodging attacks, but Royalguard is also a thing. This ability, focusing on energy, is consistently capable of blocking attacks that are far ahead Dante's body durability, it happened against DT Vergil and then against Urizen, both being capable of seriousy damaging Base Dante, yet their attacks were safely blocked by Royalguard, and it goes beyond that while in DT
Now, while on Shura, Ikki's speed will surpass DT Dante's, and since this also counts on Dante's reactions (Making his teleportation and Royalguard useless), this will push Dante to the limit, and that's the real danger for Ikki here, one can say "But Dante doesn't use Time Hax" in character, however, in a case were Ikki's attack are harming here and his speed is also higher, bypassing his main source of defense (Royalguard), Dante will not just let Ikki kill him, so Time Hax will appear and that's for sure, and while using it, Ikki has no chance of reacting against it, since, well, if Quicksilver isn't enough, then Dante will use Bangle of Time (He will know which one he should use, since he will see Ikki's speed), which completely stops time, so Ikki doesnt have a real answer, even IR is useless when Time is stopped
Add that to Dante's Deconstruction (Used in character) and his Soul Hax (Which far surpasses Ikki's resistance, as it works on demons who can resist the Demon World's Soul Hax), and I see him with more chances of winning this. Dante can survive Shura via DT amp and Royalguard, can avoid his 10X speed amp with Time Hax, and can avoid Ikki's AP during Shura via Deconstruction, Soul and if necessary, Sealing Hax. He can use a Gold Orb for coming back and the Untouchable to enhance his dura even more
So I'm voting Dante
Dante's Ap advantage here is important, almsot 3x on AP gap already makes a bit difference on a fight and while Ikki already avoided people with far more Ap than him, this doesn't mean he can just avoid Dante that easy. His feats are related to Stella, a characater that while more powerful than Dante, didn't had all of his tricks in a close fight to help her hit Ikki, mainly, Dante's DT, Time and teleportation hax.
Devil Trigger will give Dante passive fear hax but it will be useless as Ikki apparently has resistance, however, his resistance needs to be higher than baseline as Dante's fear hax can bypass layers of resistances against such ability, and if Ikki doesn't resist, this not only will slow him down (As it will make him shit his pants in fear), but also empower Dante even more, and DT on its own already makes him capable of one shoting someone comparable to his base power, which means DT Dante literally one shots Ikki, not only that, but DT also gives him a boost in speed, while not certain on how much, it boosts, which will give him an edge over Ikki in speed aswell. and this is specially dangerous as Ikki is already behind on AP by a really big gap
To add that, Dante can also slow and stop time which Ikki doesn't resist and doesn't really have a true answer against it, Teleportation is also something specially dangerous as Dante can just use it (while they are on close range) to close their distance gap and surprise him, the difference is that Ikki's Instinctive Reaction should cover that at least against Base Dante, however if this is used while on Quicksilver, DT or Bangle of Time, Ikki's reactions will be slower than Dante's attack which will make his IR less usable, up to useless on stopped time.
Shura should be able to destroy Dante as it is 10 times stronger than ikki's base abilities...I guess ? This certainly ends Base Dante and wounds DT Dante (Considering the usual gap for one shot on the wiki is 7,5X times, going by this, it shouldn't kill DT Dante, and no, I'm not saying that DT Dante is 7,5 times stronger, just to show how an one shot gap is actually something dangerous), however not only those amps in speed, time hax and teleportation are also usable for dodging attacks, but Royalguard is also a thing. This ability, focusing on energy, is consistently capable of blocking attacks that are far ahead Dante's body durability, it happened against DT Vergil and then against Urizen, both being capable of seriousy damaging Base Dante, yet their attacks were safely blocked by Royalguard, and it goes beyond that while in DT
Now, while on Shura, Ikki's speed will surpass DT Dante's, and since this also counts on Dante's reactions (Making his teleportation and Royalguard useless), this will push Dante to the limit, and that's the real danger for Ikki here, one can say "But Dante doesn't use Time Hax" in character, however, in a case were Ikki's attack are harming here and his speed is also higher, bypassing his main source of defense (Royalguard), Dante will not just let Ikki kill him, so Time Hax will appear and that's for sure, and while using it, Ikki has no chance of reacting against it, since, well, if Quicksilver isn't enough, then Dante will use Bangle of Time (He will know which one he should use, since he will see Ikki's speed), which completely stops time, so Ikki doesnt have a real answer, even IR is useless when Time is stopped
Add that to Dante's Deconstruction (Used in character) and his Soul Hax (Which far surpasses Ikki's resistance, as it works on demons who can resist the Demon World's Soul Hax), and I see him with more chances of winning this. Dante can survive Shura via DT amp and Royalguard, can avoid his 10X speed amp with Time Hax, and can avoid Ikki's AP during Shura via Deconstruction, Soul and if necessary, Sealing Hax. He can use a Gold Orb for coming back and the Untouchable to enhance his dura even more
So I'm voting Dante
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Earl, I think you're taking this skill thing a little bit too far lol. There's too much hax here.
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Yeah, Dante massively outhaxes
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Yeah Dante's regen and his resistance to phantom form completely screws Ikki here.
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Dante flirts with Ikki FRA
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"You're a pretty cool kid. It's a shame no one around here has any guts or honor like you."
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Dante slaps
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Ikki gets his vibe checked by funny woohoo pizza man for reasons above
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I believe thats grace
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I mean, it would be lovely if ya'll gave me a chance to argue back at Dante's points before the FRA train.
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You still have plenty of time.
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Dante the true demon skill fra
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Oh i'd love to see how you manage to slither your way out of this one.Firephoenixearl said:
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>Plenty of time.SpookyShadow said:
>Already grace period for 7 votes for Dante
Besides it is usually rude to just FRA train before any argument from knowledgeable members of the opposing character.
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Challenge accepted kek.AogiriKira said:
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If you manage to succeed people always can change votes even after the grace ends
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Never said they can't or that y'all ****** the thread. I just mentioned that, you should ideally not vote so quick.
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Firephoenixearl said:
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@Dante
AP is literally insignificant. He beats High 7-A's, 7-B's who are far above Dante, and can hold his own against High 7-A's that are far above him in literally every regard including skill. So mentioning "3x ap gap" when he toys with people 10x and 200x above his AP gap is ridiculous. About the hax, it's not like Ikki has not fought hax before. He has also fought time hax before (far beyond Dante's paygrade), although the girl used an unknown handicap so take it with a grain of salt. Teleportation. Yeah fair, ikki beat spatial hax that works similarly but better. Etc so hax are nothing new to ikki.
Fear hax is useless. Ikki can fight under Edelweiss's fear hax which affects down to the soul and incaps people with fear. And he was almost unaffected by Moroboshi who silenced 15k spectators just by taking a stance. But then again, mental attacks against a dude who can fight unconscious aren't your best bet. Dante can 1 shot for sure (you don't need to be 7.5x stronger to 1 shot with a sword btw, you can be equal in AP and still 1 shot with swords. The 7.5x is strictly for unarmed) but that's if he lands hits. Which he most likely won't. About boosts in speed well, again, not gonna work. Ikki fought his 4 Ittou shura clones in base and almost stomped them. So if that much speed is duable, a minor speed boost ain't changing much.
The slow of time. Im not all that enthusiastic about using non DMC1 things in DMC1 key. Quicksilver was never a thing in DMC1 it being chronologically before doesn't mean he still has it. Similar to why he doesn't have previous weapons. About the Bangle of Time is that DMC1? The teleportation and attack by surprise is not gonna work past Perfect Vision. Can't take by surprise someone that knows your every move. Before you do. (I will get to the time stop later)
Royal guard, against someone much faster and more skilled is....eh. He has to time royal guard, he'd need to read ikki's timing and stuff, not really a piece of cake against someone who can make you see afterimages to confuse your timing. And Royalguard will really not do anything because of Dokuga No Tachi existing. Ikki will want dante to block that.
Ok now onto time stop. Ya'll know what im gonna say. Trackless Step, pretty hard counters time stop/slow.
Deconstruction- Needs to shoot a bullet ikki just dodges.
Soul Hax- Needs to hit ikki raw. Considering his AP advantage it doesn't really add much to the table, Dante will most likely 1 shot anyway.
About Schnee's point on Dante's regen. It will be taxed out eventually. Too much damage will bypass it if it's sustained for a long time (the duration of an average fight).
AP is literally insignificant. He beats High 7-A's, 7-B's who are far above Dante, and can hold his own against High 7-A's that are far above him in literally every regard including skill. So mentioning "3x ap gap" when he toys with people 10x and 200x above his AP gap is ridiculous. About the hax, it's not like Ikki has not fought hax before. He has also fought time hax before (far beyond Dante's paygrade), although the girl used an unknown handicap so take it with a grain of salt. Teleportation. Yeah fair, ikki beat spatial hax that works similarly but better. Etc so hax are nothing new to ikki.
Fear hax is useless. Ikki can fight under Edelweiss's fear hax which affects down to the soul and incaps people with fear. And he was almost unaffected by Moroboshi who silenced 15k spectators just by taking a stance. But then again, mental attacks against a dude who can fight unconscious aren't your best bet. Dante can 1 shot for sure (you don't need to be 7.5x stronger to 1 shot with a sword btw, you can be equal in AP and still 1 shot with swords. The 7.5x is strictly for unarmed) but that's if he lands hits. Which he most likely won't. About boosts in speed well, again, not gonna work. Ikki fought his 4 Ittou shura clones in base and almost stomped them. So if that much speed is duable, a minor speed boost ain't changing much.
The slow of time. Im not all that enthusiastic about using non DMC1 things in DMC1 key. Quicksilver was never a thing in DMC1 it being chronologically before doesn't mean he still has it. Similar to why he doesn't have previous weapons. About the Bangle of Time is that DMC1? The teleportation and attack by surprise is not gonna work past Perfect Vision. Can't take by surprise someone that knows your every move. Before you do. (I will get to the time stop later)
Royal guard, against someone much faster and more skilled is....eh. He has to time royal guard, he'd need to read ikki's timing and stuff, not really a piece of cake against someone who can make you see afterimages to confuse your timing. And Royalguard will really not do anything because of Dokuga No Tachi existing. Ikki will want dante to block that.
Ok now onto time stop. Ya'll know what im gonna say. Trackless Step, pretty hard counters time stop/slow.
Deconstruction- Needs to shoot a bullet ikki just dodges.
Soul Hax- Needs to hit ikki raw. Considering his AP advantage it doesn't really add much to the table, Dante will most likely 1 shot anyway.
About Schnee's point on Dante's regen. It will be taxed out eventually. Too much damage will bypass it if it's sustained for a long time (the duration of an average fight).
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