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CC Goku vs Kratos

omegabronic said:
that is part of his nature as the god of war, he just.....sees all conflict through all of time
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he literally never did that in combat
and when he did do it, it was when he was sitting on his throne

omegabronic said:
have been in enough GoW vs matches to know that, that almost always pops up
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i've been in a lot of gow matches and no one talked about cosmic awareness
you're the first person 🗿
 
Robo432343 said:
he literally never did that in combat
and when he did do it, it was when he was sitting on his throne
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it isn't something he activates.........it just happens, as he becomes the GoW he sees every battle and war across time, he didn't activated anything, that was just his

Robo432343 said:
i've been in a lot of gow matches and no one talked about cosmic awareness
you're the first person 🗿
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you haven't been in enough then, here is an example
 
omegabronic said:
it isn't something he activates.........it just happens, as he becomes the GoW he sees every battle and war across time, he didn't activated anything, that was just his
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bro i never said i disagree with cosmic awareness
i said show a scan of him using it in a fight
saying "it just happens" isn't an argument...
because you said he would know everything goku does
 
Robo432343 said:
bro i never said i disagree with cosmic awareness
i said show a scan of him using it in a fight
saying "it just happens" isn't an argument...
because you said he would know everything goku does
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no, i said he would know every fight he had.........also, it is a passive thing that happens because he is the God of War/the embodiment of war itself, he doesn't need to activate, he just knows that by nature, it doesn't make sense to ask "show me him using" because that is the point, he doesn't "use" it, he just knows it by nature
 
Gonna be honest, having had a look at the example given as justification, I do wonder if it just another case of GoW having an erroneously labeled ability.

He specifically only see wars and battles while ascending to his physical throne and only sees all of it when he actually sits and looks down upon his "kingdom" from the seat of the god of war.

It seems more like a locational cosmic awareness. He gets caught off guard repeatedly in battle anyway so it clearly isn't omniscience of war.

Regardless, that's for a revision thread.
 
Damn, i need to jump in to clarify something

Goku SSB:UT Aura have 3 EE sources, Hakai, Time Power, and Universe Tree's EE Aura, it passively inducing all 3 types of EE at the same time, because literally, all these 3 powers can passive EE via energy, especially UT's energy which stated coming into contact with it going to get you erased. There are also passive Power Null in the Aura from Time Power, aside from Subjective Reality.

Anyway, i don't care if Kratos win this match or not, but saying Goku somehow refrain himself from EE Kratos or any other opponents is bullshit, not only in Heroes he is far more serious, but also literally in this mode he went out of his way to destroy Fu in-verse, his SR didn't even make Fu stronger so the argument that "Goku want to fight strong opponent so his SR going to make that wish come true" went out of the window, he went out of his way to blast Fu to kingdom come, oh wait, Fu got destroyed hard, no kingdom come for him
 
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Vietthai96 said:
Damn, i need to jump in to clarify something

Goku SSB:UT Aura have 3 EE sources, Hakai, Time Power, and Universe Tree's EE Aura, it passively inducing all 3 types of EE at the same time, because literally, all these 3 powers can passive EE via energy, especially UT's energy which stated coming into contact with it going to get you erased. There are also passive Power Null in the Aura from Time Power, aside from Subjective Reality.

Anyway, i don't care if Kratos win this match or not, but saying Goku somehow refrain himself from EE Kratos or any other opponents is bullshit, not only in Heroes he is far more serious, but also literally in this mode he went out of his way to destroy Fu in-verse, his SR didn't even make Fu stronger so the argument that "Goku want to fight strong opponent", he went out of his way to blast Fu to kingdom come, oh wait, Fu got destroyed hard, no kingdom come for him
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I should mention, that Goku even getting caught in the aura of the U.T was gonna make him disappear from existence, but then he RE’d it. So, just by touching the aura of this he was gonna get erased as the energy was able to erase things from existence. Then, he gained this UT aura for himself. Voting Goku History EE + fra
 
Robo432343 said:
bro how do i play DBH
also counted
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Mainstream is over, they going to take it down and bring a new game: Super Divers, and even if it not, going to japan is the only way, and you need to buy cards to play it since it is Arcade game

You can play SDBH:World Mission and DBH:Ultimate Mission series, however, since iirc they have PC and Console version to play
 
Vietthai96 said:
Damn, i need to jump in to clarify something

Goku SSB:UT Aura have 3 EE sources, Hakai, Time Power, and Universe Tree's EE Aura, it passively inducing all 3 types of EE at the same time, because literally, all these 3 powers can passive EE via energy, especially UT's energy which stated coming into contact with it going to get you erased. There are also passive Power Null in the Aura from Time Power, aside from Subjective Reality.

Anyway, i don't care if Kratos win this match or not, but saying Goku somehow refrain himself from EE Kratos or any other opponents is bullshit, not only in Heroes he is far more serious, but also literally in this mode he went out of his way to destroy Fu in-verse, his SR didn't even make Fu stronger so the argument that "Goku want to fight strong opponent so his SR going to make that wish come true" went out of the window, he went out of his way to blast Fu to kingdom come, oh wait, Fu got destroyed hard, no kingdom come for him
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i mean...........Fu is like, very much stablished as his enemy, i don't think that "i wanna fight" would be in Goku's head against someone he already knew about, and that he wanted to defeat to save everyone..........like, there is a difference between going all out to kill a known enemy that has given much problems for you and your friends and in endangering them to a random grumpy guy like Kratos who Goku has absolutely no reason to want to immediately vape him out of existence no questions asked
 
TheGodOfICE777 said:
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I should mention, that Goku even getting caught in the aura of the U.T was gonna make him disappear from existence, but then he RE’d it. So, just by touching the aura of this he was gonna get erased as the energy was able to erase things from existence. Then, he gained this UT aura for himself. Voting Goku History EE + fra
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oh yeah, there is the Aura.........somehow i forgot about that


altho.......i do wonder if Kratos' conceptual invul would just protect him, the description does imply it protects from hax abilities as well

also if you are arguing that Kratos will instantly get erased from being in contact with the aura..........how come it wouldn't be a stomp?
 
omegabronic said:
oh yeah, there is the Aura.........somehow i forgot about that


altho.......i do wonder if Kratos' conceptual invul would just protect him, the description does imply it protects from hax abilities as well

also if you are arguing that Kratos will instantly get erased from being in contact with the aura..........how come it wouldn't be a stomp?
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If it is a stomp that is okay as this is for the strongest 5-d list.
 
Here we go with the obligatory CC Goku vs Kratos match-up. Thank god Superman isn't getting anything for the foreseeable future because DBS/DC fans would spam Goku vs Superman like no other.
(Far too late to post this)

Goku For Reasons Above. I think that three types of Passive Existence Erasure will do Kratos in before he's able to do Conceptual Manipulation Type 1 on Goku.

Just to be sure, Kratos CAN fight and win against Goku, right?
 
Right, but can Kratos actually do that? Goku has,
Hakai, Time Power, and Universe Tree's EE Aura, it passively inducing all 3 types of EE at the same time, because literally, all these 3 powers can passive EE via energy
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Is there a circumstance where Kratos can use Conceptual Manipulation on Goku?
 
kratos has crazy reactive evolution tho, kratos evolved into resisting abstract and weird abilities he couldn't resist before such as fate manipulation from the sisters of fate. couldn't he just gain resistance to EE? i'm not a kratos wanker i just want him to have a chance lol
 
Does Kratos' Reactive Evolution have Immeasurable Speed? Goku's Aura slams. Unless we start them like...4 kilometers away or something, pretty sure that Reactive Evolution wouldn't even get the chance to give him Resistance.
 
Spicy78 said:
kratos has crazy reactive evolution tho, and it has been proved that kratos evolved into resisting abstract and weird abilities such as fate manipulation. couldn't he just gain resistance to EE? i'm not a kratos wanker i just want him to have a chance lol
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Kratos has EE resistance, but i don't know if it's a history level, because the sisters of fate were erasing Kratos in the past and it was mentioned in God Of War Ragnarok that they were undoing his existence




 
Catbowtie said:
Does Kratos' Reactive Evolution have Immeasurable Speed? Goku's Aura slams. Unless we start them like...4 kilometers away or something, pretty sure that Reactive Evolution wouldn't even get the chance to give him Resistance.
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Well Kratos doesn't have any proof of resisting EE to such potency and also its passive and immeasurable speed, so he gets deleted. And the aura of goku is definitely larger than 4 km so eh
 
Tired, weakened, sick, no limbs, blindfolded, deaf, lobotomized 60 year old CC Goku versus Post-Kratos stabbing himself with the blade of Olympus. Who wins?
 
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