Categorically Verbose and Obnoxiously and Unbelievably Long Powers & Abilities Lists on VsBattles Characters Profiles and How To Perhaps Make Them a L

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, I'm strongly against having way too many lines for the Powers and Abilities section; tabbers seem like a good idea for long lists. Though, for certain characters, having a big list actually makes sense. Such as Composite Link considering he's a composite character or the Final Fantasy V protagonists since their composite Freelancer class is actually canon.

 

[Newendigo]

Wok@ I'm not against the idea, but is really annoying when you combine this problem with what Matt brough here. There has to be a balance between bearable and reliable.

 

[Kepekley23]

My personal suggestion for how it should be handled is above.

 

[Crabwhale]

I fully agree with the Short-Term solution, however the Long Term solution is, and pardon my bluntness, utter nonsense. I completely support DMUA in that seems like it's trying to paint a relatively harmless part of the community in an extremely negative light.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

That's not my intent at all. My commentary has to do with a culture that priorites quantity and upgrading over accuracy.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Short Term solution does sound better for now tbh.

 

[Antvasima]

I agree with Kepekley's solution.

However, we would likely need an additional instruction image for the Standard Format for Character Profiles page.

 

[Crabwhale]

@ Matt

You are literally making a problem out of absolutely nothing. Sorry Matt, but the general consensus is that extremely long walls of text are looked down upon regardless.

 

[KLOL506]

I fully support and agree with Kep's solution.

And as Crab said, long walls of text are looked upon with utter disgust.

 

[Extreme123dz]

Something like this 1 , 2 , 3 , 4 as examples with tabbs?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Would something like this be acceptable? It's different, i know, which is why I'm asking.

 

[DMUA]

My commentary has to do with a culture that priorites quantity and upgrading over accuracy.

Whoever you're talking about does not represent us.

Or at the very, very least, it does not represent 16 of us (and counting I'd bet).

And even if it did represent this community, you shouldn't just go around acting high and mighty. Everyone is a man just like you, everyone gets frustrated over this stuff, and everyone will sometimes evaluate something in an inaccurate way.

But you will become the inaccuracy if you pretend it's everyone else's problem.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, Matthew is likely under some social pressure from the Narutoforums/OBD members who constantly make fun of us. He has done a lot of hard work trying to help this wiki to get better.

 

[DMUA]

Then he should take as much time as he needs to keep his cool head on his shoulders.

Take it from me, working under fire only gets you shot.

 

[Extreme123dz]

Also, why no put a pseudo respect for the feats of the characters in their profiles in Tabbs?

 

[Newendigo]

Let's get back to the profiles.

I'm also agree with Kep suggestion.

 

[DMUA]

I think Kep's on the money as well.

 

[Kepekley23]

I think Kep's on the money as well.

If I were, I'd probably have already moved out of this apartment, sadly enough. OvO

 

[Ogurtsow]

Personally, I don't consider tabbers too hard to learn how to use them (unlike reference sections). We have numerous profiles with several pictures at the top of said profiles, which are used to switch pictures of one or another character. Such a function was built up by tabbers.

I think it would be better if we split up not only pictures for each key, but also entire profiles (excluding the NA/T section probably), as it will show a certain character only in one or another form/incarnation that a reader can casually switch.

As for Firephoenix' example, I would recommend to move lots of additional info about how one or another P&A works to the NA/T section, alongside with its proofs (e.g. Imgur scans, YouTube videos, or whatever is used to justify one or another P&A).

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

That's not my intent at all. My commentary has to do with a culture that priorites quantity and upgrading over accuracy.

This struck a chord, as I know I'm completely guilty of that.

 

[Kepekley23]

It's still a completely useless section that does absolutely nothing to help other than induce provoked people to respond back to the OP. Having that there adds nothing but fuel to a fire and it's an immature thing to write, especially when it doesn't even have anything to do with the subject.

We're talking about overtly long, legitimate abilities. Not inflated profiles. That's a subject for separate CRTs, each.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, perhaps the controversial section should be removed then?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I actually have to agree with Kep there.

 

[Arrogant_Schmuck]

Someone might have brought this idea up already, but when I had a profile I was cleaning up that had a lot of explanations what I did was put them in a separate blog on their ow and put a note about it on the page.

 

[Newendigo]

Someone might have brought this idea up already, but when I had a profile I was cleaning up that had a lot of explanations what I did was put them in a separate blog on their ow and put a note about it on the page.

I actually did that a couple of comments above.

Is good idea, but is definetly not the long-way solution.

 

[WindGodAcheron]

I agree with Kep on absolutely everything he said and proposed, especially his most recent post.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I could probably do the same for the D&D Adventurer if the length of the page is an issue. I agree with Kep more than anything in that this should only affect pages of massive g i r t h rather than relatively short profiles.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

I also agree with Kep.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

Something else that might be good is moving the "Key" section towards the top of a characters profile rather than the bottom. Some characters have upwards of 5 keys and it's really annoying to read through a whole profile, see the key describing what goes where at the bottom, and then having to scroll back and forth to check what goes into what key. It'd be much easier to see if the key was at the top.

 

[Crabwhale]

^ Take all of my Kudos

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

That'd be impossible to apply.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I'm just saying it'd be better than how it is now. It's not like it has to happen all at once either.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I also disagree with it being better, it would make it look ugly to have a key right at the top.

 

[CinnabarManx421]

I'd take functional over pretty any day.

 

[Kepekley23]

I'd take functional over pretty any day.

Quoted for the most absolute truth possible. This is what I and some other people have been trying to say.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I also find it more functional.

 

[Wokistan]

It'd be taken care of with files we end up tabbering.

 

[Crabwhale]

It does look sorta ugly, but at the same time the occasions when I've had to scroll down an unreasonable amount of text to read just who the Hell's statistics I'm even reading have been...numerous, to say the least.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It would result in a mess with certain files having keys at the top and others at the bottom. It's much better to leave keys as they are, in the bottom, as they would otherwise break a natural flow of information related to the characters abilities, and just look ugly with their all caps format on the top or middle.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

It does look sorta ugly, but at the same time the occasions when I've had to scroll down an unreasonable amount of text to read just who the Hell's statistics I'm even reading have been...numerous, to say the least.

That's not really a big deal? Scrolling down doesn't take more than 10 seconds.