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So can genjutsu work on inanimate beings like a puppet or doll?
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Can genjutsu work on inanimate beings?
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It can work on Edo Tenseis who lack normal brains so yes
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Actually, that is different I mean would it work on something like a robot or doll?
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Any scans?
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They are made of a paper like substance
And why would a doll be any different a robot might be if they actually use computing to think
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That was only sound-based and light-based genjutsu by kabuto even the IT didn't work on the edo hokage
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do you wanna know if genjutsu works on Gowther? Jiraiya did put Pain in a genjutsu.
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Kotoamatsukami did as well
IT Didn't work because it was a technique for gathering energy and creating Zetsu. The Edo Hokage could not be turned into zetsu.
There is no reason normal genjutsu would not work on Edo Tenseis.
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No, I want to know if genjutsu can work on inanimate beings. Because a robot for example has no organic brain and no pain receptors and emotions to manipulate. For edos they still have their soul so it could work on them.
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probably not a robot,
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Exactly they have no emotions to manipulate and they can't feel pain or go mad so it won't work.
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Sort of
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I mean like ocular genjutsu also the pains were corpses that were linked by the rinnegan and the same chakra from nagato
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Sure
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Genjutsu works by manipulating something's inner energy (Chakra/Ki/Whatever). If something lacks that inner energy there's nothing for them to manipulate.
Ultron for example, would be immune to genjutsu. As it doesn't have a chakra equivalent nor the ability to store a chakra equivalent for Sharingan Genjutsu.
Ultron for example, would be immune to genjutsu. As it doesn't have a chakra equivalent nor the ability to store a chakra equivalent for Sharingan Genjutsu.
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Not having a normal brain = / not having one all together.
He thinks the OP is asking if it would effect shit that actually lack a brain or a mind so no, Genjutsu would fail against that.
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By not a normal brain I mean they are fully made out of a paper substance so they have no "brain" in a conventional sense
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Yeah in a conventional sense, but if the brain doesn't exist all together then it wouldn't affect anything.
For instance, even IT wouldn't affect a Golem that lacks a brain all together or a random piece of rock on the ground.
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They don't have a brain that is what I was saying. They have no reason to have a brain when their head is filled with the exact same material as the rest of their bodies
Also Genjutsuing a rock wouldn't do anything as it is a rock
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But they have chakra, which is what Genjutsu manipulates.
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It isn't just chakra. Genjutsu needing chakra has been debunked in verse
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Our assumption on that was changed in the Genjutsu CRT. You need chakra/inner energy or have the needed organ that would allow for chakra to exist.
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The bigger point here is that not having chakra or a chakra pathway system does not give you Inherent resistance to Genjutsu.
That is blatantly false
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But you didn't read the very first sentence
The zombies meet the first criteria.
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Yes so would a doll or a golem which is the point of this thread
and no they do have senses tied to a physical body unless stated otherwise or Edo Tenseis would also not have their senses tied to it
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That falls into the case by case situation. D&D golems or the statue of Rhodes from GoW for example have no reliance on physical senses, they just detect things. Chakra wouldn't work on them. Other golems would be effected because they rely on those senses.
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Yes unless stated otherwise. Under most circumstances it would work which is the point of this thread (since most depictions of golems use the basic five senses)
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I get what you mean now.
So yeah OP. If the Golem relies on its senses and doesn't have mental resistances then Genjutsu would work. If they don't rely on that, like say the Helmed Horror, Genjutsu wouldn't be able to effect them as there's nothing to target.
So yeah OP. If the Golem relies on its senses and doesn't have mental resistances then Genjutsu would work. If they don't rely on that, like say the Helmed Horror, Genjutsu wouldn't be able to effect them as there's nothing to target.
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They also still have brains regardless of the biological make up of said brain. They still have a "mind" to affect.
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So what about doll gowther case?
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Nothing I remember about Gowther implies it doesn't rely on the five primary senses.
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Actually gowther is empty inside and has type 1 2 3 def substance so I don’t think he relies on all 5 of his senses
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Having self substance doesn't mean anything here afaik
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Never mind then but my point is that he is a doll and doesn’t really feel physical pain although he has emotions near eos before he was emotionless and felt no pain.
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Weird how genjutsu worked on normal humans without chakra
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That was IT and all people in naruto have chakra
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Thats not true, it only is present when people knead chakra
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All humans have chakra or what is the point of IT than to just take chakra from ninjas? nope, it takes chakra from humans for the tree.
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To my knowledge it's sort of inconsistent if non-shinobi have chakrw or not, but even if they don't my second statement clarified that Ultron lacks the ability to store chakra injected into it anyways.
Plus you know, TP resistance.
