Can genjutsu work on inanimate beings?

[speedster352]

To my knowledge it's sort of inconsistent if non-shinobi have chakrw or not, but even if they don't my second statement clarified that Ultron lacks the ability to store chakra injected into it anyways.

Plus you know, TP resistance.

Alright so we agree that an inanimate being with tp resistance cannot be affected by genjutsu?

 

[theultimate5105]

Alright so we agree that an inanimate being with tp resistance cannot be affected by genjutsu?

No unless they have the TP resistence level to resist it then they will not

 

[speedster352]

No unless they have the TP resistence level to resist it then they will not

But genjutsu at least requires a brain that a doll doesn't have. Prove that genjutsu can work on an inanimate being which is a brain and chakra network.

 

[theultimate5105]

But genjutsu at least requires a brain that a doll doesn't have. Prove that genjutsu can work on an inanimate being which is a brain and chakra network.

We already did prove it earlier in the thread

 

[Qawsedf234]

But genjutsu at least requires a brain that a doll doesn't have

Not anymore.

Genjutsu should work as long as one of two criteria are met, the person in question has senses tied to a Physical body or is made out of energy that can be equalized to chakra

As long as the doll has normal senses genjutsu can effect it.

In Ultron's case it can operate normally as a rogue computer program so he has more evidence than Gowther of being immune to it afaik.

 

[speedster352]

Not anymore.

As long as the doll has normal senses genjutsu can effect it.

In Ultron's case it can operate normally as a rogue computer program so he has more evidence than Gowther of being immune to it afaik.

Gowther cannot feel pain, breathe taste and etc so he only relies on sight so would genjutsu affect him?

 

[Qawsedf234]

relies on sight so would genjutsu affect him?

Yeah. One of the main aspects of genjutsu is visual illusions.

 

[speedster352]

Yeah. One of the main aspects of genjutsu is visual illusions.

So only visual genjutsu will work?

 

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[CNBA3]

It can work on Edo Tenseis who lack normal brains so yes

technically they are corpses of individuals with earth around them, so that must be how it works.

 

[theultimate5105]

technically they are corpses of individuals with earth around them, so that must be how it works.

Yeah but whenever they are destroyed where they should have something is just a paper like substance

 

[CNBA3]

Yeah but whenever they are destroyed where they should have something is just a paper like substance

Should they? I don’t remember a genjutsu working on one after having been initially destroyed at least, also, there is the infinite tsukuyomi, where the edo tensei people aren’t affected.

 

[theultimate5105]

Should they? I don’t remember a genjutsu working on one after having been initially destroyed at least, also, there is the infinite tsukuyomi, where the edo tensei people aren’t affected.

They are made of that substance so it makes no difference if they are intact or not
IT is a different story

 

[CNBA3]

They are made of that substance so it makes no difference if they are intact or not
IT is a different story

Substance or not, the main catalyst is a human corpse which has a chakra network.

 

[theultimate5105]

Substance or not, the main catalyst is a human corpse which has a chakra network.

The human corpse doesn’t appear to be there when the jutsu is active

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Visual Genjutsu, likely. It can affect the tailed beasts, that are just chakra itself.

 

[CNBA3]

The human corpse doesn’t appear to be there when the jutsu is active

Though they would appear after the Jutsu is dispelled, at least shown after the Hokages were sealed when Orochimaru summoned them for the first time. And they even show to have blood flowing form them too, via Itachi’s eyes.

 

[CNBA3]

Visual Genjutsu, likely. It can affect the tailed beasts, that are just chakra itself.

Sure they are chakra, but they still have flesh and blood Too.

 

[speedster352]

Though they would appear after the Jutsu is dispelled, at least shown after the Hokages were sealed when Orochimaru summoned them for the first time. And they even show to have blood flowing form them too, via Itachi’s eyes.

So would genjutsu work on a doll or robot?

 

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[CNBA3]

So would genjutsu work on a doll or robot?

Honestly, unclear, genjutsu and it’s relationship with the chakra network are some of the more iffy things for me.

 

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Gowther cannot feel pain, breathe taste and etc so he only relies on sight so would genjutsu affect him?

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[KingTempest]

By not a normal brain I mean they are fully made out of a paper substance so they have no "brain" in a conventional sense

This is still a regular brain

It's not comprised out of paper, it just turns to paper whenever it's wounded

Edo Tensei can bleed and mould chakra, something requiring organic matter

 

[theultimate5105]

This is still a regular brain

It's not comprised out of paper, it just turns to paper whenever it's wounded

Edo Tensei can bleed and mould chakra, something requiring organic matter

moulding chakra does not require organic matter and the bleeding is just straight up inconsistent

 

[KingTempest]

moulding chakra does not require organic matter

Moulding chakra comes from organs, idk who told you otherwise

and the bleeding is just straight up inconsistent

We've seen 2 edo tensei bleed from abilities that require or produce bleeding when they're alive. That's not inconsistent.

Anyways, you could make an argument if they had any type of organic brain, but things like puppets or dolls, no

 

[speedster352]

Moulding chakra comes from organs, idk who told you otherwise

We've seen 2 edo tensei bleed from abilities that require or produce bleeding when they're alive. That's not inconsistent.

Anyways, you could make an argument if they had any type of organic brain, but things like puppets or dolls, no

So genjutsu wouldn't work on Gowther