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Caine vs Vivec Redux But Hopefully People Behave This Time
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Caine has 1A hax now so I am pretty sure Caine stomps
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Vivec is a higher degree of 1-A
His True Godly still applies here
His True Godly still applies here
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Make a new thread or rather don't. Caine's profile is quite different now.
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Vivec can still act when he is erased, don't know how many times this has been repeated adnasuem.Udlmaster said:
If you read deeper into the lore there True-Godly goes deeper than simply regen. "As a God, Vivec exists simultaneously outside and within the bounds of Time. Lying "asleep" in the Timeless World of the Gods upon his destruction, and being capable of instantly returning to the world of Time by choosing to "wake up" and manifest once again. As seen with Mehrunes Dagon, Gods can return even if erased from all of Time simultaneously"
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>Vivec can still act when he is erased, don't know how many times this has been repeated adnasuem.
1. That was never proven, so that's a baseless claim, so not ad nausuem, well done, you failed at the first hurtle.
2. He can't act, he's having 1-A power null, all his abilities are negated by Caine, he can't do a thing.
>True Godly explaination
LMFAO, that's not even High-Godly let alone True-Godly, this is 1-A hax, they erase from across all time and space by default, they erase on a level beyond Time and space, like, Regenerationn from a Timeless Void is weak compared to 1-A hax.
1. That was never proven, so that's a baseless claim, so not ad nausuem, well done, you failed at the first hurtle.
2. He can't act, he's having 1-A power null, all his abilities are negated by Caine, he can't do a thing.
>True Godly explaination
LMFAO, that's not even High-Godly let alone True-Godly, this is 1-A hax, they erase from across all time and space by default, they erase on a level beyond Time and space, like, Regenerationn from a Timeless Void is weak compared to 1-A hax.
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First of all you being condescending isn't going to help your arguments here.Udlmaster said:
Second of all, Vivec's 1-A is higher than Caine's 1-A
Third of all, time functions and is way different in TES than it is in most other mediums. Theres a whole cosmology thread about how things function in TES.
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Time has infinite dimensions in TES my dude.
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Ahhhhh, Now, that is makes infinitely more sense, it sounded as if some random 4-D Regen was supposed to be TrUe-gOdLYMatthew Schroeder said:
>First of all you being condescending isn't going to help your arguments here.
Being assertive doesn't make my argument wrong.
>Second of all, Vivec's 1-A is higher than Caine's 1-A
Which is something he doesn't have access to, even if I agreed with Vivec's 1-A being higher, but as I don't know how high it is, I won't comment.
>Third of all, time functions and is way different in TES than it is in most other mediums. Theres a whole cosmology thread about how things function in TES.
From what Matthew has said, with Time being Infinite Dimensional, and Timeless Void being Dimensionless, as I will assume for this matter.
That's still then Baseline 1-A.
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Honestly at this point this should be a banned matchup. The threads never go anywhere, and everyone just dips before a conclusion can be reached
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I think I'll vote Caine FRA.
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Vivec can tap into CHIM in his Low 2-C key
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Caine FRA, I guess
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5 for Caine I think
We just need 2 more
We just need 2 more
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Caine FRA
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Caine FRA I guess
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Grace starts now I believe
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what is the win con for vivec here? or he does not have any?
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CHIM.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
Udlmaster keeps refusing that Vivec in his Low 2-C key can use CHIM for some reason.
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This isn't getting added to any profile.
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@Kirw
That doesn't really matter because CHIM isn't as high as Caine's passive in 1-A.
That doesn't really matter because CHIM isn't as high as Caine's passive in 1-A.
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CHIM is pretty high into 1-A the **** you mean.
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If is true that vivec can go into chim (i think he can like rein can go into 1-A in like 10 sec in one of his keys) then i will vote for vivec.
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1. He can't, Reinhardt doesn't go 1-A he just has 1-A hax in his 3-A Key.TOAAPRESENCE1 said:
2. Caine's Narrative Erasure is passive, the literal instant the match starts Vivec is erased and is power nulled.
3. Caine has 9 Platonic/Outerversal Transcendences in his Hax at this level.
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1. Wrong. it's been stated many times throughout Rein's 3-A key that him becoming 1-A is an ability that is used.Udlmaster said:
2. Vivec can act while erased this has been repeated adnaseum.
3. Tes 1-A's including Vivec from what I know are on the level of Hypnos in the Cthulhu Mythos, which is pretty high into 1-A.
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