Butters Loser Brackets: Round 6 Dipper Pines vs Dale Gribble

[Eden_Warlock99]

"In character, but willing to kill. The characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws such as being casual, however, must be willing to kill the opponent even if they usually won't"

 

[Buttersamuri]

Dales usual strategy would be to shoot at that range. The only thing that holds him back is a lack of willingness to kill. But since this removes that restraint. He would pop a shot. It would be beyond stupid of him to try and run up and punch him when he has a gun. Dale is not that stupid.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

If so, then Dipper dodges the attacks since speed is equalized, loads the memory gun and erases his memory. The Range is also several meters, which is less than 10 meters

 

[Buttersamuri]

That's Just Bull right there. By that logic. Dale Just dodges cause speed is equal too.

Speed equal doesn't make him fast enough to dodge a bullet. And again by your logic. Dale just dodges the shot too, and it becomes who gets the shot in first. Which as explained above, dales got way more experience, training, and skill

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Couldn't Dipper survive the Shot? He survived an attack that Smashed a Car with minor Injuries

 

[Buttersamuri]

No. Because a car crash vs getting shot are very different. One of them can cause near instant death depending on where shot. And cause him to bleed to death too. The other is blunt force, which does far less

 

[00potato]

Dale's Gun scales to him like our guns do to us so no.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Basically. Cause if they both shoot at the exact same time. Dipper dies as a result. But dale lives on. Without his memory. But still alive

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Then It's a draw? Because erasing Dale's memory is incap?

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Guns don't ignore durability, so it's important to know. Also Dipper suffered a massive beating from someone who stomped him without mych injuries, so I doubt a gun shot would kill him

 

[Buttersamuri]

Then It's a draw? Because erasing Dale's memory is incap?

If Dipper is dead. Not really a draw. Even if dale lost his memories. He won the fight. It only counts as an incapacitate if Dipper isn't killed. Because then dale leaves and basically surrenders the fight since dipper forced him to forget about it. But if dippers dead. Well. Dales still alive. And he isn't trapped anywhere. So it's still a win on his end

 

[00potato]

That just proves that the difference is less in AP and more Skill, since his injuries weren't massive.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Guns don't ignore durability, so it's important to know. Also Dipper suffered a massive beating from someone who stomped him without mych injuries, so I doubt a gun shot would kill him

Blunt damage isn't pierce damage. He hasn't had a wound as serious as being shot and bleeding out. That's not comparable at all. And even in those instances. His senses are so loose, nothing stops dale from putting another few into him for good measure. And that's on the presumption it doesn't hit someone that's near immediately fatal. Like the head

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

That just proves that the difference is less in AP and more Skill, since his injuries weren't massive.

Rumble's basic Kick did more than Half Dipper's health bar , and Dipper's attack barely did any damage

 

[Whiteoak019]

Dale wins because more skill and more ways to kill Dipper

 

[00potato]

Then how wasn't he majorly injured?

 

[Buttersamuri]

Because the health bar didn't actually represent anything too accurate. Dipper was still conscious after his health went beyond zero.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Because the health bar didn't actually represent anything too accurate. Dipper was still conscious after his health went beyond zero.

Yes but he was clearly unable to fight and was beaten pretty badly. No injuries though. And yes, Rumble stomps Dipper and then made an "overkill" with his ultimate attack

 

[00potato]

So he wasn't injured? Why would this matter? All it means is that the health bar works differently then normal damage if he wasn't harmed by someone stronger then him.

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

So he wasn't injured? Why would this matter? All it means is that the health bar works differently then normal damage if he wasn't harmed by someone stronger then him.

It matters because if he wasn't injured by this attack, why would a gun injure him? Especially since most guns aren't 9-B anyways

 

[Buttersamuri]

1. That literally doesn't matter. Guns pierce damage. That doesn't magically go away

2. His guns can pierce people on his level. People stronger than him. It's going to go right through dipper no problem

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

Well if so, then Dale should take it with low difficulty given that Dipper doesn't start with firing his gun, and his wincon require him to act in a pretty out of character-ish way.

It almost seems like a stomp tbh, since Dipper don't start with the gun usually

 

[Joaco0902]

Dale FRA I guess? It does seem pretty stompy...

 

[Buttersamuri]

I mean. Dale can just move on if y'all think so.

 

[00potato]

Sure, speed this up since you have the 8-C bracket going on too.

 

[Buttersamuri]

Alrighty. Works for me

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

if only this was mabel...

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Wait! Ford stated the magnet gun would be enough to rip a man's fillings out from a hundred feet away so Dipper could probably win based of that.

 

[00potato]

Does he tend to use it?

 

[Buttersamuri]

No he doesn't

7th Round!

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Does he tend to use it?

Rarely, he used it once and he couldn't even use it properly.....Yeah, Dale wins this one

 

[Gilad_Hyperstar]

I'm pretty sure he stomps, given that Dipper's only wincon is out of character to him.

Anyway, you should just proceed to next round