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Broly V.S Jiren

Ka$aJ1zo said:
If both bloodlusted what says jiren wins? Broly was attacking not going for the kill.
And i doubt jiren could use a move strong enough for that. we havent seen any special ability or attack he has that would allow that. Broly would just keep getting stronger until he overpowered jiren. seems a lot more likely than jiren randoming forming an attack we've never seen him do. even if he did theres no gaurantee it would kill someone that strong.
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Even God Vegeta would have killed broly he he would have gone all out so yes Bloodlusted Jiren will use his everything to erase him
 
Ka$aJ1zo said:
so? that changes nothing, we dont know how much stronger he got. and he wasnt saying that very moment, he was talking about jiren entirely. regardless, that still changes nothing since both are being compared to GoDs and above GoDs. it's clear akira is trying to keep from saying one is stronger than the other. Beerus Broly and Jiren are all around the same power. And it seems he's being very careful making sure there isnt anything to say one is stronger than the other.
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Piccolo said that Super Full Power Jiren is significantly stronger than Full Power Jiren.
 
Honestly this discussion is pointless.

I believe Broly is stronger than Jiren but even if you insist that Jiren is a little stronger then Broly would still catch up due to his insane adaptation and Jiren is not Gogeta so he can't cover that differen in power.

If you think Jiren is so much stronger than Broly to the point of one shotting him then I really don't know what to tell you.

Only way Jiren would shot Broly is if Broly start in base and he didn't one shout Goku or Vegeta because of how arrgont (and stupid?) he is so more than likely he will just let Broly reach LSSJ and from there Broly's adaptation would just do the work
 
So if FP Jiren and FP Broly are comparable (both maybe being stronger than GoD level), wouldn't LB Jiren work Broly over mid-low diff?
 
Noone said FP jiren and FP broly are comparable. this was about LB vs FP broly. those two were the comparable ones. piccolo saying jiren is significantly stronger doesnt add anything to the table since 1. we already know that and 2. piccolo is nowhere near their power so even a slight increase is a lot to him.

LB jiren is nowhere near as strong as Gogeta blue, considering Gogeta blue is stronger than MUI, who is stronger than LB jiren. and broly was catching up to Gogeta blue before he decided to put an end to it. LB jiren just doesnt have the power to end broly that quickly. not to mention his lack of stamina would be his downfall, he was very tired and weak after fighting in LB for not even a minute, while broly could handle over an hour. anyway you look at it, LB jiren may have a slight advantage in pure power but thats never enough.

Edit: forgot to mention FP jiren and FP broly arent comparable because FP jiren struggled a bit against a weaker, and very tired goku and vegeta while FP broly completely bodied both of them when they were stronger (after T.O.P) and full of energy without a sweat. He didnt even get hurt.
 
@Ka$aJ1zo
What excuse is this 1 min is more than enough to finish someone especially if it's LB Jiren and you forgot that Jiren destroyed SSB Evolved Vegeta afterwards. Plus he didn't got time to recover from his previous fights but this time it's just Broly so it shouldn't be a problem for Jiren to destroy him as in TOP you cannot kill someone but their is no restiction here Jiren can take down Broly with his strongest attack
 
If you really think MUI Goku is stronger than Gogeta, then remember UIS Goku almost got annihilated by a fodder ssj2 Fusion.
 
Gogeta is stronger than MUI via casually stomping Broly who was stated to be stronger than Beerys. Same statement that was given to MUI Goku in multiple media.

There is also the fact that potara fusion between between 2 fodder characters resulted in Kefla being stronger than UIS 2 Goku despite the 2 girls being WAY weaker than alone. Those 2 girls were weaker than SSG Goku, which is like 2% of his full power if you include Kaio-ken?

Gogeta is way above Goku or Jiren.
 
Can I take the chance to say that Jiren's second form name is so lame? Somehow the fans names of the forms are always better than the official ones.
 
I don't know what makes you think Jiren would one shot Broly when he didn't do the same for Goku or Vegeta. The fact you even think Jiren can one shot Broly at his peak is ridiculous.

Gogeta didn't even one shot Broly he kept beating him up.
 
There isn't a quantifiable gap between FP Broly and LB Jiren to say any of them one shot. And knowing Jiren, who allowed Goku to become as strong as he did, would be overcome by Broly in no time.

Plain and simple.
 
True, there's no quantifiable gap, but if FP Broly and FP Jiren are comaparable (and I've seen nothing to contradict this), then that's akin to saying LB Jiren couldn't oneshot FP Jiren, which I find hard to believe. Also, he let Goku become stronger because the man unlocked UIS and Jiren still smacked him. He had no way of knowing he'd go from slightly superior to Goku to absolute fodder at FP with just one upgrade to UI, nor did he expect Goku to achieve said MUI
 
Zamasu Chan said:
If you really think MUI Goku is stronger than Gogeta, then remember UIS Goku almost got annihilated by a fodder ssj2 Fusion.
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A fusion with a normal and a Beserk Sayian and UI Goku did kick her ass
 
@Baki MUI Goku couldn't even one shot FP Jiren despite being stronger, so Broly still adapts.

@Shubham Kefla as a fusion is still fodder because she was only stronger than ssg in base while Gogeta was stronger than ssb in base. That's a super saiyan level gap between fusions.
 
ChocomilkAlex said:
Finishing somebody with a move after you've hit them a million times isn't a Oneshot.
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It's akin to it if your opponent is also constant increasing in strength. With his strength growing over time, logic dictates he oneshot a Broly stronger than when they started fighting
 
with what evidence? Best we have now is still a "perhaps". which still doesnt change who wins considering even without this broly has more actual evidence (as provided above, im not gonna keep repeating it)

Hes stated to be the mortal above gods every other second...
 
No he wasnt, he was stated to be above belmod, the god that was refered to when it was stated "above a god" not "above gods". theres a big difference, only once was he ever hinted at that and that was a "perhaps"
 
BakiHanma18 said:
True, there's no quantifiable gap, but if FP Broly and FP Jiren are comaparable (anD I've sEeN NoThInG tO ConTrAdIcT tHiS), then that's akin to saying LB Jiren couldn't oneshot FP Jiren, which I find hard to believe. Also, he let Goku become stronger because the man unlocked UIS and Jiren still smacked him. He had no way of knowing he'd go from slightly superior to Goku to absolute fodder at FP with just one upgrade to UI, nor did he expect Goku to achieve said MUI
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they ARENT comparable, FP jiren struggled quite a bit against a tired goku and a very very tired vegeta, while broly outright annhilated both of them at their full power, he didnt even get hit or show anything close to a struggle unlike FP jiren who did. LB jiren and FP broly are comparable, not FP jiren, who gets absolutely destroyed no argument.

If you disagree then rewatch the fight because that is clearly what happened in it.

LB jiren is MUCH MUCH weaker than SSB gogeta, who is stronger than MUI, and even SSB gogeta couldnt one shot him, heck he forced gogeta to go out of SSJ and turn SSB and SSJ gogeta could be compared to FP jiren seeing as SSJ gogeta is stronger than SSBE and SSBKKx20. not saying anyone of the two win or lose. but that they can be compared, broly FP and FP jiren however, not a chance.
 
your vote had nothing to do with rewatching it, this isnt about "voting". its the fact that FP jiren gets completely annihilated by FP broly. and that FP broly and LB jiren are comparable, which means broly would most likely overpower jiren in the end, because jiren isnt capable of destroying someone around his strength in one shot.
 
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