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Terrorist lollipop wins again.birdcage jailer
The he took damage thing was narration hype text. It was removed in the volume release like hiw all hype text is removed.we know that Boros has a definitive "he took damage statement" which is supported by the guidebook saying that
Brazillian?Terrorist lollipop wins again.
This was covered in the video and a consistent explanation was given... But since I don't remember that part correctly, I'll leave it to Ziller (The Master Expert) to explain...The he took damage thing was narration hype text. It was removed in the volume release like hiw all hype text is removed.
It's why it's not used for profiling.
I mean, guys. Boros' ultimate finisher move was countered by an attack from Saitama that Boros himself knew was nowhere near his full strength. He absolutely does not upscale more than he currently does.
we'll be seeing about all that quite soon..The he took damage thing was narration hype text. It was removed in the volume release like hiw all hype text is removed.
It's why it's not used for profiling.
I mean, guys. Boros' ultimate finisher move was countered by an attack from Saitama that Boros himself knew was nowhere near his full strength. He absolutely does not upscale more than he currently does.
Some very interesting arguments in this vid. Please check it out fellow Boners.
Brazillian?
Skip to the 11:21 part of the video if you want to see his rationale...
The video didn't cover it. As I said it's just hype text that's removed for the volume release. I know that because in the physical Japanese volume that text isn't there as you can see belowThis was covered in the video and a consistent explanation was given..
As I said before, when Boros used his ultimate move in his ultimate form, Saitama countered it with an attack that was nowhere near his maximum output. Boros does not scale to Garou anymore.We did in fact have multiple pieces of evidence of saitama actually having a physical reaction to being hit, with how his eyes reacted to the attack from behind and saitama finding it necessary to block his meteoric burst punches,
The video didn't cover it. As I said it's just hype text that's removed for the volume release. I know that because in the physical Japanese volume that text isn't there as you can see below
The removed it completely in the volume release, which is why Viz didn't included. Literally every manga is like this.
Watch peak fiction by the guy who made that boros video
There's 100% reason for that though. The text is editor hype stuff. Every manga and comic has that text to excite readers. It's why it's removed from volume or collected comic books, because that text isn't needed to hype the reader. It's a fluff statement that's not useable.If every one of those pieces of text gets removed in the physical then there’s no excuse for interpreting it as if it’s been retconned or something.
The guidebook is just wrongAlso the fact that the guidebook doubled down
Because that is a trope within both Japanese and Western Comics. It's why it's removed in a collected release, since the point is to excite the reader since its been between a week or a month since they read the last chapter.how do you know what is written there is a hype thing and not a simple one declaration?
It’s a statement that’s very clearly getting a point across, and isn’t meant to be a throwaway. Nothing says that it is meant to be a blatant lie, and it is immediately followed up with the chapter starting as Boros monologues about saitama’s damage increasing over time.There's 100% reason for that though. The text is editor hype stuff. Every manga and comic has that text to excite readers. It's why it's removed from volume or collected comic books, because that text isn't needed to hype the reader. It's a fluff statement that's not useable.
Look closerThe guidebook is just wrong
Saitama was objectively on the defensive
- A surging of attacks have Saitama on the defensive -> Saitama took no damage and whenever he actually tried Boros had no ability to block or dodge him
It was phrased as a question, meaning it was intentionally not saying it, because if it did say it, it would be inaccurate. If it was not contradicted, it would only be worth a possibly or likely rating, it’s completely different from the definitive claims, and is intentionally phrased like this to prevent this counterargument from holding any weight. Bad example.
- Will Saitama be corned like this? -> Saitama face tanks all of Boros' attacks and then kills him with a move that didn't even tap into his full strength
Once again phrased as a question, very intentionally not able to be used as a counterargument.
- Does Boros who can recover from damage instantly have an advantage?! -> Saitama literally kills him and proves he had no advantage or win condition
Yes, he overpowered his strongest move while holding back, which again doesn’t mean anything. All that matters is that Boros, when landing a completely clean blow directly on Saitama’s head, was at least able to do a minuscule amount of damage which visibly caused a reaction from Saitama, that is all. This isn’t saying Boros is gonna be at most 4-A or anything, just that he’s way above everyone who couldn’t do that to Saitama. You’re completely failing to debunk the main points here, it’s not a good look when the first issue you had with it is just wrong, and the other 2 rely on statements that were phrased specifically to not be used as evidence.
- The bottom left text even states that Saitama was tired of the expansion, instantly turned the battle around and a corned Boros unleashed his ultimate attack that Saitama then overpowered while still holding back
Again, coughing baby stomps ant. Also he says that his efforts BARELY phased Saitama, which directly contradicts the claim that he didn’t phase saitama, which is a piece of evidence that I can and will instantly turn around and use against your counterargument. Boros wouldn’t know Saitama’s exact full power still, because he was still significantly below him, but it’s just that it was almost a real fight, he was barely phased, he was kind of clobbered, that’s it. You can’t disprove that Boros did something to Saitama, even if incredibly small, he very definitively did something, which is the whole point. All you’re showing is that Boros can’t scale directly to Saitama, which is something that nobody was trying to do in the first place.The databook isn't gospel. It's filled with iffy statements and everything has to be taken on a case by case situation. Boros stood no chance against Saitama. He directly says that his efforts didn't faze Saitama and narration with Garou showed that literally no one until Garou was even close enough to Saitama to realize his sheer power.
You can't say it isn't meant to be a thrown away when it was literally thrown away.It’s a statement that’s very clearly getting a point across, and isn’t meant to be a throwaway
It was a piece of text removed from the finalized canon because it's editor hype text. It's not a narration box or a character statement and the fight ended with Borks saying Saitama killed him while barely tapping into his strength.Point is, it’s such a blatant text with massive implications on the fight and we both should know that it was meant to be taken as an actual
He punches Boros right after (which shatters bones and pops organs) and them gibs him with a blitz. Saitama was just blocking, that doesn't mean Boros was doing anything effective.Saitama was objectively on the defensive
It's your only example and the work itself shows Saitama didn't use his anywhere close to his full strength and still clowned Boros.It was phrased as a question, meaning it was intentionally not saying it, because if it did say it, it would be inaccurate. If it was not contradicted, it would only be worth a possibly or likely rating, it’s completely different from the definitive claims, and is intentionally phrased like this to prevent this counterargument from holding any weight. Bad example.
A question that is immediately answered with "These two are actually nowhere near comparable to each other and Saitama is much stronger".Once again phrased as a question, very intentionally not able to be used as a counterargument.
Boros struck Saitama and then read off his backstory. Saitama said to quit talking and to continue the fight. Boros goes all out and is still completely outmatched by someone holding back.minuscule amount of damage which visibly caused a reaction from Saitama, that is all
I did debunk them, your brick wall mentality with Boros just prevents you from seeing it.You’re completely failing to debunk the main points here
This isn't a coughing baby vs ant. This is a supernova vs a prion string and the supernova was nice enough to fake a fight for five minutes. Boros never stood a chance, didn't do anything and at the end of the fight said his entire goal was pointless because Saitama completely dwarfed him in strength.Again, coughing baby stomps ant
Unless ONE reiterates that statement it's just no longer useable.And Boros being around Full Monster Garou is just a self fulfilling prophecy and was obviously intended to happen…
Boros said he didn't faze Saitama.You can’t disprove that Boros did something to Saitama,
You're saying he injured Saitama or wounded him. That's thr entire point why you keep trying to use the editor hype text. Boros being a trillionth of Saitama's strength would still warrant him being upgraded due to how high into 4-A Saitama is.This isn’t saying Boros is gonna be at most 4-A or anything,
we'll cross that boridge when we come to itBoros being a trillionth of Saitama's strength would still warrant him being upgraded due to how high into 4-A Saitama is.
He probably just thought that you wouldn't take time to respond to a long ass post on something that is not even a CRT, and about Boros of all characters, who most staff find annoying because of people (just Ziller tbh) always talking about him.???
Why would think that?
nah I just thought I wonHe probably just thought that you wouldn't take time to respond to a long ass post on something that is not even a CRT, and about Boros of all characters, who most staff find annoying because of people (just Ziller tbh) always talking about him.
Ziller activitiesnah I just thought I won
you know exactly what I meant. Point it, the fact that the guidebook statement exists means that it was never retconned to begin with, so the intention is still completely usableYou can't say it isn't meant to be a thrown away when it was literally thrown away.
again, saitama holding back a lot doesn't mean Boros didn't scratch him a tiny bitIt was a piece of text removed from the finalized canon because it's editor hype text. It's not a narration box or a character statement and the fight ended with Borks saying Saitama killed him while barely tapping into his strength.
ok first of all Boros clearly doesn't have any bones, but secondly, your response doesn't prove anything. Yes, Saitama easily can very very easily beat the shit outta Boros, but Boros' full power punches in released form had already shown to be able to shake saitama and get a reaction out of him, and in meteoric burst he blocks the attack. It doesn't have to be effective, in fact it was very ineffective, but it would still be enough of an annoyance to make saitama defend, which is again something that nothing else was doing.He punches Boros right after (which shatters bones and pops organs) and them gibs him with a blitz. Saitama was just blocking, that doesn't mean Boros was doing anything effective.
it's not my example, at all. It's more so the fact that Saitama reacted slightly to an attack from Boros once, was stated to have rivaling abilities, Boros then proceeded to imply that he was doing chip damage to saitama, quickly followed by Boros' assault making Saitama block his attacks, and also csrc forcing saitama to use a serious punch which I guess also directly puts it above cosmic garou's consecutive normal punches, but there's not much else to do with that I thinkIt's your only example and the work itself shows Saitama didn't use his anywhere close to his full strength and still clowned Boros.
The question was answered, yes. Not sure how a question being asked and then answered helps prove anything, since it was never intended to be a statement to begin with.A question that is immediately answered with "These two are actually nowhere near comparable to each other and Saitama is much stronger".
okay, a few things wrong with your responseBoros struck Saitama and then read off his backstory. Saitama said to quit talking and to continue the fight. Boros goes all out and is still completely outmatched by someone holding back.
There's nothing here. Boros does not scale to Garou.
you fell off when you became an adminI did debunk them, your brick wall mentality with Boros just prevents you from seeing it.
he got scratchedThis isn't a coughing baby vs ant. This is a supernova vs a prion string and the supernova was nice enough to fake a fight for five minutes. Boros never stood a chance, didn't do anything and at the end of the fight said his entire goal was pointless because Saitama completely dwarfed him in strength.
calm thyself, I wasn't using it for anything.Unless ONE reiterates that statement it's just no longer useable.
boros said he barely fazed saitama, and we did very clearly see him get fazed when he got punched from behind, so if Boros said he didn't faze him then in a way, that would just be objectively wrong.Boros said he didn't faze Saitama.
It was a lie, because it wasn't a good fight, it was almost a good fight. Again, you are completely missing the point. Being massively weaker and not giving a good fight doesn't mean he can't inflict an extremely minor scratch on him.When Saitama said it was a good fight Boros called him a liar.
Coughing baby finds out bodybuilder is far too powerful for a decent fight, goes on to sit on the worms in the dirt to instantly kill them.Boros when dying said the prophecy was wrong and Saitama was far to powerful for him to fight.
Well yes, because he never saw Saitama's full power, because that would be a real fight. It was almost a real fight, andfor the 17th time you have proven nothing except that Boros can't scale to Saitama, which was never up for debate to begin with. Boros can scratch saitama, consecutive normal punches can scratch saitama, neither of them were close to his full power at the time.Every single previous take from Boros regarding his strength to Saitama was incorrect and we have in-universe narration that no one besides Cosmic Garou was close enough to even recognize how strong he was. Scaling Boros to Monster Garou because he did nothing to Saitama isn't a justification.
I don't. It was literally a statement that was removed.you know exactly what I meant.
It isn't. Because Boros never damaged Saitama and never came close to challenging him.so the intention is still completely usable
It does. Saitama was humoring Boros. It's why he tries and make him feel alright before he dies. At no point did Boros actually threaten or harm Saitama.again, saitama holding back a lot doesn't mean Boros didn't scratch him a tiny bit
He has some similar enough to generate a cracking sound effect.ok first of all Boros clearly doesn't have any bones
Putting dirt on Saitama isn't the same as actually damaging him. Cosmic Garou with a vast array of powers and copy hax failed to even make Saitama bleed. Boros is no different.Garou, while being even with consecutive NORMAL punches, was able to scratch Saitama
Boros was wrong, as he himself said. He was doing nothing to Saitama and didn't gaze him. Saitama still immediately overpowered him whenever he tried and Boros' super move was stopped without Saitama even tapping into his fuller strength.Boros then proceeded to imply that he was doing chip damage to saitama, quickly followed by Boros' assault making Saitama block his attacks, and also csrc forcing saitama to use a serious punch which I guess also directly puts it above cosmic garou's consecutive normal punches, but there's not much else to do with that I think
He didn't do any damage to Saitama, as Boros himself said.some miniscule amount of damage to saitama nonetheless
and also he took damage panel is just obvious author intent
Boros never damaged Saitama in the first place, which is the point. Saitama received no wounds and its relived he was holding back for the entire match.nobody cares if he got stomped to shit, since you are still fully capable of making a scratch on someone who stomps you (something garou quite literally did)
I altered OPM scaling far before becoming an admin. I was here back when we scaled Golden Ball above Genos and DSK because he fought Garou. I'm also the one who helped out with the CSRC changes. Overall my stance from three years ago to now hasn't changed.you fell off when you became an admin
Nothing happened to him, as Boros himself stated.he got scratched
We already scale Boros above her, so I don't understand why you'd even bring her up.tatsumaki because saitama was effortlessly unharmed.
For the 20th time we aren't scaling Boros to Garou based off of a retconed statement, a passage that is mostly wrong and reading into author intent without knowing the author and ignoring the actual example of author intent.17th time you have proven nothing except that Boros can't scale to Saitama,
I was wrong, because like a fool a trusted Viz and it was actually much worsefazed him (which means he did faze him a little, which is exactly what I’m arguing)
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You had strength to spare
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Boros in the raw didn't even saw he fazed Saitama. He said Saitama lied, had strength to spare and called the fight toothless because Saitama was that much stronger.Rough translation: It was a toothless fight / It was toothless, it wasn't a fight
It goes back that Boros realized that he was completely outclassed and nothing he did effect Saitama.Which just goes back to it being a nothing statement
And visually Boros did no damage to Saitama and was completely outclassed the entire time, as he stated later on.All we have to go on now is the fact that it visually happened in the fight
Anime Boros seen this:ok first of all Boros clearly doesn't have any bones