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Bleach upgrades
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'''Yay'''
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KFC solos
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Yay
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Well, the math is solid. That's all I'll say. Neutral here.
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Then Meh ?
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Jesus what happened to this thread? Tbh just go with the current low-end for Seireitei's size, it seems like a fine compromise between Kubo's inconsistent art and his several statements about its real size
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And the mountains that are shown in it in some occasions ?
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What do you mean? The current low-end done by Raven (208 km or something iirc) incorporates the mountains and stuff
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Wait what ? Huh, I thought they weren't considered...
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We're using the mid end of Ravens size.
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Oh okay
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Also I really can't agree on Las Noches being a six day walk, that would mean they were on the back side of the palace. I prefer using 12 days to walk around the whole thing since it would mean they were on either one of the sides of the palace (right or left side)
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But then again that's what I prefer
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Las Noches is a special case. I've explained it twice before. We can't be sure where they were on one particular face and we can't be sure where the nearest gate was. I absolutely DO NOT recommend using the walking statement to calc the size of Las Noches.
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Wait a minute, Kubo is gonna release a art book containing all of his artwork for Bleach right ?
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Yes.Dangai Ichigo said:
Hopefully, it settles the Seireitei and Las Noches size debates with new info. But since this is not a databook, I doubt we can expect such info.
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Las Noches can be lowballed if you assume 3 days to reach the opposite side and other 3 to walk all of it.
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Exactly, that would mean we would have different sketches of how the Sereitei or Las Noches are design. Heck maybe even a world view or something, like how the Shinigami in England are or something
Probably some different designs for his characters that Kubo was planning to make.
I do want to know how Ichigo would look if he kept his tattoos from his Fullbring Shinigami state or if he still kept the tattoos in his Fullbring Bankai
Probably some different designs for his characters that Kubo was planning to make.
I do want to know how Ichigo would look if he kept his tattoos from his Fullbring Shinigami state or if he still kept the tattoos in his Fullbring Bankai
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why were they downgraded in the first place? just asking out of curiosity
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Not enough evidence ?
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This. This is the lowball that I use and got accepted on another battleboard as it is the only statement of it's size and is the lowest lowball we can do.Kepekley23 said:
But an important info is taking in the context of the speaker, Nel. Nel isn't a human she's much faster, doesn't need to eat (the Reishi in Hueco Mundo is enough and Espada no longer need to consume) and I don't recall sleep being a thing needed for Hollows.
So remember to include this when going about Las Noches' size.
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3 days across makes Las Noches 180km from north to south (or maybe east to west), which is a little bigger than Switzerland, higher if we assume most of the day is spent walking as opposed to only half of it.
But this is just me playing with the statement.
But this is just me playing with the statement.
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And considering their extremely high Stamina and the fact they were resting on Dondonchaka I'm pretty sure they would be able to walk the entire time
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Also, Ichigo ran nonstop for a few hours and noticed no change whatsoever.
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400km Los Noches would be amazing
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With 400km how much would that change the current ratings?
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Not neccessarily 400km, but you do realize Seireitei's current accepted size is still bigger than Las Noches regardless?
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Ah so I'm assuming those were just rough numbers?
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Just me playing around with Nel's statement. I don't even know what our current Las Noches size is.
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Town sized iirc.
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From a castle to the other?
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Wait my bad. I asked Solider Blue awhile ago and he said it's likely large city sized but we don't know for sure since nobody tried to calculate the size.
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How much that would affect the results ?
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Sucks that Piercer had to quit the wiki.
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Well, even based off of the visuals alone Las Noches has to be pretty ******* big, considering Ichigo runs for hours and feels like he's getting no closer to it, which already implies Las Noches is readily visible from multi hundred km away.
Even lowballing Ichigo's speed to that of Usain's, 3 hours of running (since Ichigo's lowest stamina feat is running for hours before getting exhausted) means Ichigo was at least 100km away from Las Noches when him, Uryu and Chad began booking it and it was still covering a considerable portion of their field of view as opposed to being a dot in the horizon.
Even lowballing Ichigo's speed to that of Usain's, 3 hours of running (since Ichigo's lowest stamina feat is running for hours before getting exhausted) means Ichigo was at least 100km away from Las Noches when him, Uryu and Chad began booking it and it was still covering a considerable portion of their field of view as opposed to being a dot in the horizon.
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But, well, whatever on that for now.
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Looking at Gwyn and my Cero calcs, you can see that Las Noches is 15 km wide and 3.51 km tall. That is pretty big for a fortress. It is also a low-ball.Kepekley23 said:
Some databooks state that those grey pillar things are 30 metres tall. And Gwyn has estimated the height of those red pillar things at 45 metres in another calc.
Now we know that Aaroniero's palace is close to the outer wall of Las Noches and it is at least as tall as the red pillar things. From on top of there, the fake sky dome of Las Noches seemingly extends to the horizon. Even from the top of those red pillar things near the centre of Las Noches (such as around central tower 5), you can see that the sky dome extends to the horizon.
Using the horizon formula, you can actually arrive at Las Noches widths of a few dozen kilometres, well above the current 15 km estimate.
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