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Bleach Spoilers/Discussion Thread 2

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HokageMangaVox said:
Fullbring Arc should had been the first Arc, follow by SS Arc, Quincy Arc/Arrancar Arc at the same time.
No. You do know why Bleach was popular in the first place, right? The SS Arc. If Bleach started with the Fullbring Arc, it would have been canceled soo fast.

LTB2000 said:
Does anyone agree that the fullbring arc was an unnecessary arc since ichigo was going to get his powers back even if ginjo never showed up, not to mention we never got to see the fullbringers really did any collateral damage or fid anything to affect the soul society at all?
Ichigo got his powers back because of Ginjo being the antagonist. Why would SS randomly give Ichigo his powers back if there were no antagonist? Before Ginjo showed up, there was a 17 month time-skip. Why didn't they give it back to Ichigo earlier and waited until Ginjo popped up?

Edit: Sorry, I'm not going to have this conversation. It will lead to a never-ending argument on how Kubo could have gave Ichigo his powers back.
 
KuuIchigo said:
HokageMangaVox said:
Fullbring Arc should had been the first Arc, follow by SS Arc, Quincy Arc/Arrancar Arc at the same time.
No. You do know why Bleach was popular in the first place, right? The SS Arc. If Bleach started with the Fullbring Arc, it would have been canceled soo fast.
The Fullbring Arc was fine, it would had been better than the fillers in school that we had at the start of the series. Chad and Orihime would had gotten a proper role and upgrades. We would have know about the Substitute Shinigami, Ginjo would have save Ichigo instead of Rukia. Obtain Fullbring powers from the Hollow inside of him. Ginjo would had stolen them thinking that if Ichigo's father was a shinigami maybe by training his son he could obtain his back. After Ichigo's 17 birthday timeskip, Rukia would be send from SS to kill Ginjo. She would get injure and save Ichigo, thus giving Ichigo her powers like in the beginning. Uryu would had join the Quincy's earlier for vengeance. Ginjo's trail in SS and Rukia's excution could have been dealt with. Then there would had been a war of 3 fractions and everyone could have gotten a better backstory to tie in everything and eliminate the boring fillers. This of course could had never be play out by someone as Kubo. His paise is horroble, not to mention his execution.
 
It's not going to end in 4 chapters. I won't believe it until Shueisha comes out and says it is. Read this.
 
better be a rumour, because unless Ichigo's new Bankai is some Reality Warping or Quantum Manipulation or revealed to be a part of Soul King, he is not gonna touch Yhwach. At all. Knowing Bleach next chapter will probably just about the gang catching up with Yhwach, and the chapter ends with them confronting Yhwach
 
Well, it's either that, or a marketing ploy made by the editors to hype up the ending.
 
Hes not saying theres hype for it, not that theres any tangible way to measure that because obviously fans will be, but that THEY are hyping it up.
 
i dont know if it was mentioned but we should upgrade tsuyu, his ability is retconned to "can change the past" and not only "insert himself into someones past",

which is basically a hax so strong that it borders ywachs lvl of broken-ness >_<

and orohimes powers are useless again due to "inserted to much strength into it"...wth? why dont they simply say "plot dont want you to be useful orohime..." at least it would give us a cool 4th-wall-breaking scene XD
 
does yhwach have this power on his page.

Future Modification: Yhwach states that the true power of The Almighty is the ability to transform the future.He utilizes this power by setting up traps where he knows his opponents will be and attacking them before they can even begin their own attacks. He can also maneuver around any defense and countermeasure they use to protect themselves in order to facilitate his attacks.
 
LTB2000 said:
KuuIchigo said:
He did die. Tsukishima, Giriko and Ginjo went to SS and Ganju found them.
I'm still lost over the fact that ginjo died and somehow came back.
How funny, it seems that you aren't paying attention to the series. What happens when you die? You go to Soul Society. Smh
 
And Ginjo is a substitute soul reaper, so how was he able to keep his memories from when he was alive when no one else in the soul society has ever remember their lives in the living world.
 
LTB2000 said:
And Ginjo is a substitute soul reaper, so how was he able to keep his memories from when he was alive when no one else in the soul society has ever remember their lives in the living world.
The little kid that met Chad did remember, I guess they lose their memories over time. Since they can live up to 2,000 years.
 
Plothole chapter

Tsukishima inserted a past where Yhwach didn't break the Bankai and so in the present Orihime is able to reject an event that never even occurred....

That was so dumb but kubos being rushed so it's not entirely surprising I guess..
 
^How did she reject something that didn't happen that's the thing if Tsukishima just inserted a past where Yhwach didn't break his sword than orihime shouldn't even be needed to reject a nonexistent event...

That said do you guys think Ichigos dad will give him his powers or something I mean how else is he supposed to fight anyways?
 
Akuto Sai12 said:
Plothole chapter
Tsukishima inserted a past where Yhwach didn't break the Bankai and so in the present Orihime is able to reject an event that never even occurred....

That was so dumb but kubos being rushed so it's not entirely surprising I guess..
He said, she can rejected it in "there" meaning she fix it in the past not in the present.
 
It's me, or did just Kubo retconned Tsukishima's ability?

Ugh...

This is getting worse than Kaguya's plot device...
 
^^haha, only now? since the entire "my hax is stronger than your hax" i already had this feeling XD

seems like you cant create a verse with immense powerlvls + hax if you dont create massive plotholes and retcons everywhere :D but since bleach ends i will sit back and enjoy it ^_^

PS: who thinks that ichigo will end as the next SS-king? basically he reabsorbs his powers from ywach plus all the other abilitys and than he takes over the role as walking, talking SS-king at the end of the series :D
 
I don't see ichigo as the soul king. sure, he may have the power to help guide the future, but that's only by removing crowns, not by being in an intellectual sense. I don't see any reason why ichigo would anyway since he just wants to be in the human world in a way or hanging with Rukia. Being the SS-King would seperate him from his friends and loved ones in the human world. I think someone like Kisuke would probably want something like that, though he's too humble for that type of situation.
 
^true but since only 5/4 chapter are left i dont see any other way for this to end other than ichigo having the convenient bankai ability to absorb the power of others, exspecially given the fact that his getsuga works with the principal "absorbing ichigos reiatsu in the sword and releasing it with a single attack",

kubo did similar stuff with hitsugaya, rukia or kenpachi, so i wouldnt be suprised if the next convenient ability is "absorbtion" >_<
 
Possibly, but that would have to mean that Ichigo absorbs other's reiatsu so much that Yhwach cannot find a single future to escape from.
 
^seeing how kubo destroyed everything in bleach i dont see why this wouldnt happen :/ (and givent he fact that ywach also said that the bankai would be dangerous i guess something on that lvl is the only way to stop him)
 
KamiYasha said:
It's me, or did just Kubo retconned Tsukishima's ability?

Ugh...

This is getting worse than Kaguya's plot device...
No, its always beem the same And i don't think anything is worser then kayguya's plot device...
 
Where was it stated that it was Memory Manipulation? iirc the manga said "he inserted his existence into someone or something past." That's how he was able to created traps in the Byakuya fight.
 
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