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In this case it's not 5-B at all. It's a chain-reaction. We need method and timeframe. We have little information on both and the only information we have contradicts the ridiculous jump in logic that Yhwach would one-shot three planets. He never did, and if he could nobody in Bleach would stand up a hair's-breath to him.

@Shadow

Like, High 6-A. Though I don't know if the results would change given some of the new re-calculations.
 
Piercer of Heaven said:
@Matthew Schroeder Universes/Dimensions can be whatever shape you.
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Soul Society isn't a universe.

The Earth isn't a universe, and isn't the shape of a cube. Unless you believe in Timecube.

t's clearly just a representation.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
@AppleLord Giant post, that scan doesn't prove the Soul Society is the same size unless you genuinely believe Earth is a cube.
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So you're dismissing me because you don't want to read it? Nice. Show some respect and read it. I spend time on it. I'll happily add scans to it.

It shows the dimension size been the same, and since Soul Society has a moon and a sun and its call a parallel world is the same size. Unless you think that fodders can create moons and a sun? Bleach fodders Moon level+ lmao
 
Also considering the fact Yhwach also has a very casual High 6-A feat. Which is also lowballed quite a bit since we lowballed the distance between soul society all the evidence points to 5-B.
 
What's funny is that Ichigo does scale to multi-continental based on canon multipliers and Yhwach's Vandaenreich feat.
 
People said that SK's reiatsu was sealed, if it was sealed then how was he keeping up the worlds without any reiatsu at all? Also im pretty sure that Yhwach's reiatsu was leaking even when he died and got sealed by the royal guards. So the argument of people saying SK's reiatsu was sealed makes no sense. So would this imply 5-B Dangai Ichigo/True Shikai or simply that Yhwach and SK are not 5-B?
 
PS, if that image proves Soul Society is big as the Earth does this image prove Ten Tails has as much Chakra as a small planet?
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BMWFanboy said:
What's funny is that Ichigo does scale to multi-continental based on canon multipliers and Yhwach's Vandaenreich feat.
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If you are talking about the Bankai multipliers we dont use that here. It's nonsensical author statements. That same as what we consider for the size of seireitei and las noches I guess. Thats canon too but we dont use it.

The reason I say it is nonsensical is because u get that 5-10x boost is Even for zanpakutos that clearly don't increase ap like sakanade or kyokasuigetsu. Which are purely hax in nature.

Also extremely funny contradictions with ap zanpakutos aswell. Soifons weapon changes from a small poison blade to a nuke, and yamamotos bankai is quite literally 100s of thousands of times stronger than shikai.

Tldr; it is nonsense.
 
OIYIG said:
People said that SK's reiatsu was sealed, if it was sealed then how was he keeping up the worlds without any reiatsu at all? Also im pretty sure that Yhwach's reiatsu was leaking even when he died and got sealed by the royal guards. So the argument of people saying SK's reiatsu was sealed makes no sense. So would this imply 5-B Dangai Ichigo/True Shikai or simply that Yhwach and SK are not 5-B?
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Thats what i was thinking
 
Wasn't Yhwach's Vandenreich feat downgraded to Country Level anyway?

As I said earlier in the thread, Yhwach's best feat is destroying the Seireitei and the surrounding area using his Reiatsu. Why don't we use that? Since after all we didn't see him affecting the 'real world' and Heuco Mundo during that period. If he was going to go on and destroy them also, we don't know how long that would take.
 
@Shadowbokunohero well I'm not sure if you're interested in my opinion but I can definitely see High 6-A Ichigo based off multipliers and revised calcs. With the old calc from Kenpachi it would been 5-C or moon level.(even then I assumed Bankai is x100)
 
BMWFanboy said:
PS, if that image proves Soul Society is big as the Earth does this image prove Ten Tails has as much Chakra as a small planet?
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Yes. And that means what exactly? Ten Tails is already planet level. Smh.
 
Two things:

1. Don't bring another series into this discussion. What is being discussed here is an energy mechanism unique to this series. How this stuff works in another verse is of no concern here.

2. Jubi is Low 5-B in fact.
 
>Wasn't Yhwach's Vandenreich feat downgraded to Country Level anyway?

No. That's what the OBD uses. Not VsB. The one we use is in his feats section.
 
Casual High 6-A feat =/= Proof you're anything above High 6-A.

Also, maybe a new calculation by Kep would be good since we found that plenty of the feats we use had... Let's say, very interesting quirks and wielded very different results when re-calced.

Damage says it became 6-B but I'm not sure.
 
I don't think Multipliers really work for most series, it either gives inflated results at far lower than what has been obviously displayed, Ichigo being High 6-A doesn't seem that far fetched if we have a calc, im not a 100 sure on 5-B Bleach but 6-B EOS Ichigo would be laughably far to low.
 
Still that's only a representation to show how they're linked, that doesn't mean you can say it's the size of Earth.
 
I find the scaling used on that image a bit ridiculous seeing as it puts the height of the Soul King's palace as 59 kilometres based on a single panel and all of the other panels don't suggest it is anywhere near that big. I know that "what you feel" isn't a valid counterargument, but there comes a point when we're just making up stuff that doesn't match with the manga... The Soul King's palace is not 59 kilometres tall...

EDIT: Also, there's no comments in that calc suggesting that it's been accepted and verified.
 
Matthew Schroeder said:
Casual High 6-A feat =/= Proof you're anything above High 6-A.
Also, maybe a new calculation by Kep would be good since we found that plenty of the feats we use had... Let's say, very interesting quirks and wielded very different results when re-calced.

Damage says it became 6-B but I'm not sure.
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Please, Yhwach wouldn't be the first character to jump to 5-B with a lower Tier: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Adam_Blade

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Playable_Saber_(Nero)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Father_(Fullmetal_Alchemist)

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Korosensei

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Arcueid_Brunestud

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kamijou_Touma

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Kusuo_Saiki

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tommy_Oliver

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Link_(Ocarina_of_Time)

All these characters are around the same level as Yhwach and are 5-B either by statements or feats. Is not an outlier in case you want to bring that up in the future.
 
Yhwach gaining planet-destroying attack potency is a bit of an outlier when the only thing that's based on is him merging the spiritual and living worlds together over an unspecified timeframe.
 
Shadowbokunohero said:
yeah just because it was casual doesn't mean much, I mean Madara's low 5-B feat is also pretty casual but doesnt mean it gets a higher rating than At least
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5-B Madara and Otsutsukis have actually more evidence than 5-B Bleach.
 
@AppleLord

All of this characters either have 5-B or Low 5-B feats, scale to people with very clear 5-B feats, or have explicit very clear descriptions of 5-B feats they can do.
 
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