Bleach revision for 5-B characters

[Dark649]

Since when was the Soul King a corpse? If he was always dead, how did Ichigo kill him?

Ichigo just cut a lifeless body made to sustain the flow of souls, his pieces like Pernida were alive.

 

[ALRF]

So far:

Damage 3245, Theglassman12, Ultima Reality, The Everlasting, Shadowbokunohero, Dragonmasterxyz, BMWFanboy, Dark649, Gargoyle One, TataHakai agree with me.

Count me too.

 

[PrettyFearMachine]

Altho my opinion has no weight on this topic, I agree with the downgrade

 

[Dark649]

I also agreee.

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

@Damage3245 And right after Ichigo casually bats away his strongest attack. And right after Aizen flexes and oneshots Isshin, Urahara and Yoruichi.

 

[BMWFanboy]

Plus if them worlds were already supposed to be one fearless world, and the Soul King was what was keeping them apart, hence propagating the fear, that means Yhwach wasn't 5-B at all.

 

[Dark649]

Piercer i will just downgrade Monster Aizen as at least 6-B and put Shikai Ichigo at at least 6-B, it's simple.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I was eating what did I miss ?

 

[Damage3245]

I was eating what did I miss ?

General agreement is leaning towards downgrading Yhwach, Ichigo and Aizen.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...retical_destruction_of_the_Soul_King's_Palace

maybe someone could recalc this or something

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

might help

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I just saw that Ichigo got his Completed Fullbring form in his profile, yay ! I love that form

 

[AppleLord]

But it's mostly because their arguments are just wrong.

Really? Wasn't you the one who said I wrote "a wall of text" and didn't read anything in the last thread? I counter a lot of arguments in a single reply from when I was asleep. But you just ignored it all together.

 

[Trexalfa29]

Disagree with the revision, completely.

 

[BMWFanboy]

The last part where The black Reiatsu is being emitted from the ground is clearly the Soul King's power, and it still doesn't make it any different from before when it was causing small quakes, which weren't even worth a warning. So no, it's not head canon.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

That is not going to help you in any way. You can always make a specific CRT for this once we get more light novel material and such. Until then, however, there are more arguments against than in favour.

 

[TataHakai]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/U...retical_destruction_of_the_Soul_King's_Palace
maybe someone could recalc this or something

"Distance = 5968589760 meters"

This distance was gained through calc stacking and has since been debunked.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Also can someone make a Ichigo scaling with multipliers ? Just out of fun to see how much of a boost he gets

 

[Piercer_of_Heaven]

Yhwach stops the destruction of worlds with his reiatsu as a corpse and Ichigo was going to do the same, that's specifically stated in the novel. That's all.

End.

 

[TataHakai]

I'm not saying it's been agreed but if the downgrade does happen

Ichigo and Aizen go to Country level

Yhwach to Continental

Soul King to Unknown, or just outright delete the profile because he has absolutely Zero feats.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

So far:

Damage 3245, Theglassman12, Ultima Reality, The Everlasting, Shadowbokunohero, Dragonmasterxyz, BMWFanboy, Dark649, Gargoyle One, TataHakai, ALRF, Soldier Blue and RebubleUselet all agree with me.

I also know that WeeklyBattles is against it as well but he hasn't commented.

Just pointing out that I agreed with this from the start too so dont forget me either Matt.

 

[Js250476]

I've also agreed with Matt since he started the 5-B Bleach debunks

 

[BMWFanboy]

I'm not saying it's been agreed but if the downgrade does happen

Ichigo and Aizen go to Country level

Yhwach to Continental

Soul King to Unknown, or just outright delete the profile because he has absolutely Zero feats.

Wait, Ichigo country? That's a bit much. He clearly was keeping up with Yhwach who is atleast continental in base form.

 

[Soldier_Blue]

Also can someone make a Ichigo scaling with multipliers ? Just out of fun to see how much of a boost he gets

6-A

 

[Dark649]

Ichigo and Aizen go to Country level

Yhwach to Continental

Soul King to Unknown, or just outright delete the profile because he has absolutely Zero feats.

Yhwach raising feat and Aizen Soul Palace destruction could be High 6-A, also Mimihagi speed feat is not Sub-Relativistic with the new timeframe.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

"Distance = 5968589760 meters"

This distance was gained through calc stacking and has since been debunked.

>5,968,589,760 meters

Wow, that's larger than the planet Earth. How did this go through?

 

[AppleLord]

The last part where The black Reiatsu is being emitted from the ground is clearly the Soul King's power, and it still doesn't make it any different from before when it was causing small quakes, which weren't even worth a warning. So no, it's not head canon.

Because:

• There's no canon evidence that he can let go of the balance of souls willingly.

• It was only shown to happen when a Soul King dies. Even after his death, Yhwach's corpse was keeping the worlds together. Don't you think that he would have let go and let everyone die by now if he could willingly do it?

• Yhwach went to Soul Society which is in another dimension to physically destroy it with his reiatsu. If he could do it with the balance of souls he would have done it from the palace in the other dimension since that's what happens when the other Soul King died in the first place.

• The Earthquake was shown to happen in ALL the dimensions. Yhwach was only shown using his reiatsu in one of them.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I'm with AppleLord ! Mugetsu and TS Ichigo should be at least Continental, since again it's needed an entire sea to cool down his sword that has been recently made and not trained

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Just pointing out that I agreed with this from the start too so dont forget me either Matt.

Damage 3245, Theglassman12, Ultima Reality, The Everlasting, Shadowbokunohero, Dragonmasterxyz, BMWFanboy, Dark649, Gargoyle One, TataHakai, ALRF, Soldier Blue, RebubleUselet, Js250476 and ProfessorKukui4Life all agree with me.

I am growing stronger.

 

[Schnee_One]

So Yhwach is 6A or High 6A?

 

[BMWFanboy]

@dangaiichigo

Well I can try

Taking Shikai Ichigo at twice of Shikai Kenpachi accounting for the eyepatch we get 32 teratonnes

Now, add x10 for Vasto Lorde Hollowfication at 320 teratonnes

The Bankai is confusing, however, since Yhwahc acknowledged it and didn't give two ***** about his Hollowfication lets say x100, which fits with him being able to match Yhwach at 32 petatonnes

Multi-Continental or High 6-A

 

[Soldier_Blue]

@Piercer of Heaven

Didn't you once make a calc estimating the distance from Seireitei to the Soul King palace using some reasonably estimated speed for Ichigo (which was pretty straightforward and had no calc stacking)? Or was that someone else?

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

https://i.gyazo.com/0e5fccdd2baa52bc336400e96625054a.png

Kep just told me this in chat.

"By the way, I also disagree. +1 for the list"

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

When I tried to multiply Dangai Ichigo these were his respective multipliers (Low End to High End and wank)

Dangai Ichigo = 32x Vasto Lorde Ichigo (Low End), 80x Vasto Lorde Ichigo (Mid-End), 400x Vasto Lorde (High-Mid End), 2,000x Vasto Lorde Ichigo (High End) and 10,000x Vasto Lorde (Wanked)

 

[Schnee_One]

https://i.gyazo.com/0e5fccdd2baa52bc336400e96625054a.png

Kep just told me this in chat.

"By the way, I also disagree. +1 for the list"

Why did you ban him again XD

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I'm neutral about the downgrades, but 6-B EoS Ichigo is too much.

No matter. I'm just gonna sit down here and watches the show with my B***ches.

 

[BMWFanboy]

I still think Ichigo should be at least 6-A given the multipliers which are more or less consistent with feats.

 

[Damage3245]

I still think Ichigo should be at least 6-A given the multipliers which are more or less consistent with feats.

How is that consistent?

 

[Schnee_One]

facts, actually debating and countering the argument >>>> votes or how many people agree or just comment "I agree with reasons above" without proving anything

I agree with better reasons, given by someone who I personally find to be more reasonable here.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Yeah, again, Entire sea being dried away thanks to

a Pre-Royal Guard training True Shikai Ichigo is a very big sign