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they're not separate they're directly connected and part of the same universe.I agree with these being separate space times though, enough evidence is shown
they said that without any arguments and said matt and damages reasoning seem fineWeekly also said they were leaning towards disagreeing before.
Factually incorrect Isshin says they are cut off in both time and space.they're not separate they're directly connected and part of the same universe.
That’s what I’ve been suggesting to take into account everything. It’s the entire point of possibly.Right now it’s two for Low 2-C, two for 3-A, and one neutral leaning towards Low 2-C.
What is wrong with the compromise, “At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C”?
not separate 100%Factually incorrect Isshin says they are cut off in both time and space.
the garganta isnt the universe it is what surrounds wotl (our universe) and soul society (same size as wotl)they're not separate they're directly connected and part of the same universe.
Cuz if we go by that, 2C wouldn't even be an optionRight now it’s two for Low 2-C, two for 3-A, and one neutral leaning towards Low 2-C.
What is wrong with the compromise, “At least 3-A, possibly Low 2-C”?
wotl isn't our universe how many times must i say thisthe garganta isnt the universe it is what surrounds wotl (our universe) and soul society (same size as wotl)
Do you know what “completely cut off” means?not separate 100%
As many times until you provide evidence. And no saying it’s not the entire Bleach Universe doesn’t prove your point.wotl isn't our universe how many times must i say this
Seems like iti think matt isnt agreeing with low 2C because he is misunderstanding the cosmology
As many times until you provide evidence. And no saying it’s not the entire Bleach Universe doesn’t prove your point.
It's not my fault I don't think the evidence otherwise is conclusive in the slightest.i think matt isnt agreeing with low 2C because he is misunderstanding the cosmology
See top reply of Page 2. You'll find a better argument albeit for a higher tierCan I get the exact context for low 2-C pls?Sorry if this is redundant kek.
Seems like it(2)i think matt isnt agreeing with low 2C because he is misunderstanding the cosmology
Counter evidence in general most of what I have seems is just saying "na is not universe size"It’s not my fault you haven’t provided enough counter evidence.
I think the text of the novel speaks for itself in definitely proving that the Living World isn't the universe.It’s not my fault you haven’t provided enough counter evidence.
My guy I know WotL isn’t the whole Bleach Universe.I think the text of the novel speaks for itself in definitely proving that the Living World isn't the universe.
The god tiers onlySo we go for at least 3-A, possibly low 2-C ? And who will have this rating ?
It's include who now and what form? I don't have read the novel so don't know new thingThe god tiers only
No he’s saying that since the Bleach Universe is bigger than the WotL, the WotL can’t be universal in size.Is matt basically saying that the WOTL etc. Is just a planet with a few stars on it?
there's no evidence it is.That. Doesn’t. Mean. It. Can’t. Be. Universal. In. Size.
How does that make sense?No he’s saying that since the Bleach Universe is bigger than the WotL, the WotL can’t be universal in size.
According to VSBW standards if it’s a parallel world to our irl universe it is universal in size. Also there’s plenty of evidence.there's no evidence it is.
It doesn’t.How does that make sense?
casuality explained it wellI think it's a problem about how you understood the feat, let me try to explain why they said that the Living world was created:
In Conclusion, The composition of those worlds are fairly differents, one is Physical, the others are Spiritual
- The World of Living is the Material world of The Verse, According to Urahara, he is composed of Kishi, The natural things of The World of Living, this one is different for what SS is made of.
- The SS is a world of Konpaku, which is a term to call it 'Spiritual' if you want, you need to be a Spiritual being (made of Spiritual particle (Reishi) to go in), this is why you use a gate that convert real matter to spirituals ones, and those world are all made of Reishi.
Now that we know the distinction, we need to analyze once again the Quote about the SK:
- As explained, the World was in Chaos before it cool down and make it 'normal' as the current universe, now when they talk about the Separation, this is what we need to focus:
This is what we need to answer about your doubt about the size of the Universe, the separation was to make a distinction between what is alive and what is dead, and to do that, SK created a Spiritual Realm when everythings made of Souls (what is dead) live in, this realm is made of Reishi, so Spiritual particle and the other is made of Kishi because it's alive
When they talk about 'Created the World of Living' it's because the Old world was a Chaos made of those particle, everything was either Alive and dead, thos was ambigous, the Old Universe is the Chaos when those things was in a same place. but when they Splitted the Universe, they indeed Created the world of living by separated the Spiritual matter out of the Universe to make a Spiritial Universe and the World of Living, The Physical Universe, it's clear now?
Maybe i have made a mistake by saying that too directly, i should probably fix what i've said:
The Old Universe has the size of New because the matter which is what made of physically was kishi, reishi is a non physical matter, everything which is dead is made of Reishi, the Size of the Old Universe can't be larger than the new because what the SS and HC are made is Non physical matter, in other world, spirit particle, i think you should think about the SS as the Spiritual plane of the Universe, just like the common trope of a spiritual realm inside ppl
In summary, The Old Universe = The Universe when what is alive and death exist in the same plane, by messing the flow of souls which maked the Old Universe work as the New Cosmology, SK and the 5 Family Splited the Old Universe to make a Spiritual Universe for what is dead and a physical for what is alive, unlike the old one when all was in the same plane. The separation was also to prevent the Universe to stagnate once again due to the flow of soul, which could easily be disrupted if Hollow, Spiritual being eat to much huamn, preventing their souls to being recreated in the future and destroy the balance. The only difference between The Old and The New Cosmology is that now, Deads live in the realm of dead and Living ppl live in the Living Realm, the size didn't changed, but the composition did.
That's all i have to said i guess, i've tried to explain this as better as possible, hope it answer your questions.
but the irl universe is equivalent to the entire bleach universeAccording to VSBW standards if it’s a parallel world to our irl universe it is universal in size. Also there’s plenty of evidence.
Is hard since it seems that matt is confise about the cosmologyWere regressing now.