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Bleach Bankai General Discussion Thread #7
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Waiting for "they're not real souls" xD.
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You aren't getting the point here,Damage3245 said:
from the screen shots we see mugetsu hit aizen,we then see it destroy aizen slowing to being into pieces and then nothing,after that we don't see aizen on the air again after mugetsu cleared,he then regenerated off screen and gravity took it's place proving he wasn't cut in half only as a person being cut in half wouldn't loose his grip,and he landed on the ground and finished regenerating.
Another point to be noted,here we see aizen's m
onster form,but here we see him with a different body from his monster form after regenerating from mugetsu
,a completely different body aizen,looking like a brutalized staggered figure who just got up from having his whole body blown to nothing,what my point proves here is that a person being split in half would still retain his former self.
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It's better for you to link the images instead of loading them on to the thread.
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No,what you are seeing there is an already regenerated aizen,from the scans I gave up,we clearly see mugetsu turn him to pieces and into nothing,there after,we see mugetsu leave the scene from the horizon of the crater we don't see aizen again,but we could see him from the horizen before,thats 1)then next he regenerates off screen and gravity took it's place on him aizen as he lost his grip from the air while being disintergrated,someone who was cut in half wouldn't loose his grip like that,then next we see aizen with a completely different body,someone split in half would still retain his former body as he would only have to regenerate his splitted area,but that's not the case of aizen as we not only see a completely different body but brutalized body.Warren Valion said:
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Read this:Warren Valion said:
https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/171...vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1799861?useskin=oasis
We totally need a rule to ban this topic. Is the same every other month. Sigh.
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Last time I remembered, a discussion was made in reddit about the viz translation of volume 74 being out,but I searched for the digital one throughout the internet,but I couldn't find it,it seems they aren't updated yet,I don't have money to buy the booklet one lol,btw check out some recent viz translated scansAppleLord said:
Planet level yhwach confirmed
According to the viz translation, yhwach holds the worlds in place by his power .
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Preventing the natural collapse of spiritual realms and the Earth equals planetary AP and durability... how exactly?
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"Reio was created to stabilize the Soul Society, where massive number of Konpaku/souls pass through."
^ Reio/Soul King was created to stabilize and prevent the 3 worlds from fusing again with his power. Souls/Konpaku always pass through to Soul Society when people die in the living world.
It has nothing to do with the balance of souls. The novel also support it. People should wait before bringing this topic until the novel is finish.
The 3 worlds were once one united world which got seperated by the Original Sin of Soul Society.
^ Reio/Soul King was created to stabilize and prevent the 3 worlds from fusing again with his power. Souls/Konpaku always pass through to Soul Society when people die in the living world.
It has nothing to do with the balance of souls. The novel also support it. People should wait before bringing this topic until the novel is finish.
The 3 worlds were once one united world which got seperated by the Original Sin of Soul Society.
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I take a break from VS to come back to the planetary stuff being discussed. Nice.
Can we just drop the planetary stuff for now? Soldier Blue and I will handle it when the time comes, we'd prefer for the Novel to finish so we don't have any new evidence that may have initially help edor even disprove the notion in the first place.
Can we just drop the planetary stuff for now? Soldier Blue and I will handle it when the time comes, we'd prefer for the Novel to finish so we don't have any new evidence that may have initially help edor even disprove the notion in the first place.
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I agree with IMade to let the topic drop for now so we can revisit it later. Please, let us stop for now.
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I'm with Damage.
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I see we are still quoting huge bodies of text, nice as well.
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I read it.AppleLord said:
It didn't answer my question, not in the slightest. So I'll reiterate.
Why, if Aizen regenerated a completely new spiritual body, did he still have the same injury that Mugestu gave him - a vertical bisection?
It only healed after he was lying on the ground.
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I find myself agreeing with Warren here.
We don't see total destruction of the body in the manga. The fact that he had a whole body regenerated except for a great big cut down the middle sounds off to me.
We don't see total destruction of the body in the manga. The fact that he had a whole body regenerated except for a great big cut down the middle sounds off to me.
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It seems pretty simple why Aizen regenerated in that fashion when you realize how the damage was applied with Mugetsu. Initially it cuts Aizen in half and then those two halves are vaporized by the properties of Mugetsu. Thus, when Aizen regenerates he regenerates the two disconnected halves that then regenerate to the other. So reverse order of the Mugetsu.
@Chou
Yukio's dimension have false suns and moons. We see that there are borders in the dimension with Renji vs Jackie and the walls of the dimension start closing in.
@Chou
Yukio's dimension have false suns and moons. We see that there are borders in the dimension with Renji vs Jackie and the walls of the dimension start closing in.
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But why?IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
If he has Low-Godly Regenerationn. If he truly regenerated from nothing more than a disembodied consciousness, then why did he regenerate into two separate parts of his body and then regenerate the vertical bisection?
It is completely illogical.
He doesn't regenerate like Zeref or Seraphina, he doesn't rewind time, he regrows. And if he regrew from his consciousness, then he shouldn't have regrown into being bisected.
Isn't less presumptuous to say that he was bisected by Mugetsu, was surrounded by Mugetsu's black energy, and seemingly disappeared as the panels went to show establishing shots of the destructive force of Mugetsu; and, because he was nearly killed from Ichigo's attack, he fell from the sky, crashed onto the ground, and was only able to survive and regenerate his bisection because of the Hogyoku instead of regenerating from his disembodied mind?
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Also, how do we know there were no scattered molecules of Aizen which would make the regen High? Or even better, how do we know there was no ash of him around which would make it Mid-High?
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I think it is because, when using Mugetsu, Ichigo is becoming one with Zangetsu, his powers. Including even his Quincy powers., and the Quincy can destroy the Soul.Damage3245 said:
So if Ichigo did completely destroy the soul, it would be a complete destruction, and not leave any trace of Reshi particles.
I, however, doubt that Ichigo did destroy Aizen's spiritual body.
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omfg lol
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If you guys disagree with Aizens Regen rating, you should make a CRT about it.
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@Warren @Damage
Yeah, it comes from Mugetsu using Quincy powers which destroy souls. Thus the settling on Low-Godly through that and from the effect shown on Aizen's body through Mugetsu being similar to the description of Quincy destroying Hollows.
As to why he regenerated as two halves, that's just how his regen functions. It more appears to reverse what happened to him since the Regenerationn was done in the reverse order of Mugetsu's applied damage.
Yeah, it comes from Mugetsu using Quincy powers which destroy souls. Thus the settling on Low-Godly through that and from the effect shown on Aizen's body through Mugetsu being similar to the description of Quincy destroying Hollows.
As to why he regenerated as two halves, that's just how his regen functions. It more appears to reverse what happened to him since the Regenerationn was done in the reverse order of Mugetsu's applied damage.
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That would make his regen Mid-Godly instead, if it comes from his soul being completely destroyed.
I still disagree on this though, since we don't have any evidence his body was destroyed down to the last molecule.
I still disagree on this though, since we don't have any evidence his body was destroyed down to the last molecule.
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Why would you assume that?IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
That's not how his Regenerationn worked when Ichigo cut him.
He didn't regenerate in the reverse order that he received damage in, he sprouted white goo, that covered his injury and solidified into his body which healed him.
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Shinigami are literally made of one thing and that's Reishi,your think of this like they're normal humans.
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@Warren
He did sprout white goo when he stitched himself together.
He did sprout white goo when he stitched himself together.
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Not every single Quincy attack destroys the soul of the person it hits though.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
Ishida has shot plenty of characters with arrows and their souls didn't spontaneously explode.
So Ichigo cutting Aizen in half and reducing him to lots of tiny pieces still wouldn't result in Soul Destruction even if Quincy powers were involved.
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@Damage
That's where the argument of souls in Bleach came in. We were discussing Konpaku, the soul, and the actual soul inside. We assumed the Konpaku soul is destroyed, there were arguments for Mid-Godly being tossed in that thread linked if you checked it out. Konpaku was a solid conclusion imo, we simply used the properties of Mugetsu to determine what Regen would be applied to Aizen via Konpaku (soul) destruction.
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I assume that because it happened? Realize that the visuals and mechanics of Aizen's Regenerationn were all different in each stage of his Hogyoku transformation. Pre-Chrysallis he had that purple cracking over his injuries to heal. Post-Chrysallis he had that weird energy looking effect. Butterflaizen had the bubbly effect. Monster Aizen that we're discussing is this other thing.
That's where the argument of souls in Bleach came in. We were discussing Konpaku, the soul, and the actual soul inside. We assumed the Konpaku soul is destroyed, there were arguments for Mid-Godly being tossed in that thread linked if you checked it out. Konpaku was a solid conclusion imo, we simply used the properties of Mugetsu to determine what Regen would be applied to Aizen via Konpaku (soul) destruction.
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I assume that because it happened? Realize that the visuals and mechanics of Aizen's Regenerationn were all different in each stage of his Hogyoku transformation. Pre-Chrysallis he had that purple cracking over his injuries to heal. Post-Chrysallis he had that weird energy looking effect. Butterflaizen had the bubbly effect. Monster Aizen that we're discussing is this other thing.
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Exactly, that aids my argument.AnonymousBlank said:
Aizen's regen doesn't "reverse what happened to him" as IMade stated, it grows from that injury in a white goo.
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Are you really comparing generic arrows to that of Mugetsu?
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1. He was in a Crysallis state, so him being in a cracked shell is logical.IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 said:
2. Post-Chrysalis energy thing was him healing and evolving, the "energy looking effect" happened as well when he became God Aizen during his fight with Ichigo
3. No, it didn't as mention by AnonymousBlank, God Aizen sprouted white goo as well.
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Allow me to amend what I said. It wasn't exactly white goo like in Butterfly form which bubbled, the effect was like the halves expanding towards each other, something notably different which Kubo definitely didn't forget seeing as the scenes were two chapters apart.
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If his Regenerationn reversed damage to him then his white skin would burst from between the gap to the divided halves, and not originate from the two halves healing the other.AnonymousBlank said:
And his white pasty skin expanding to cover up a wound is not really all that different to what we saw Aizen do before.
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